The JL Challenge

[Johnlegend]

John hit a low of 57 and then pulled back to 115 or so.

Could say he doubled his bankroll.  One 20u bet pulled his fat out of the fire.  Would rather see many small winners than one large one.  One large can be luck; many small cannot.

Wesa pullin' fer ya, JohnBoy!!

Sam

Thanks Sam. You're right I'm looking for about five points a day until I get back to 200. No risky stuff and have a stop-loss of 30 points. So I can't destroy 10 days work in one session ever again.

[F_LAT_INO]

Only tested first 2000 numbers,two uncles different way,and it beats flat bet these 2000 rng numbers


Minus starting 24 tracking numbers.

[Robeenhuut]

What happened to website with the numbers?

[GLC]

Only tested first 2000 numbers,two uncles different way,and it beats flat bet these 2000 rng numbers


Minus starting 24 tracking numbers.

Dear F_LAT_INO,

This is the purest way to play your unique concept of jumping back and fourth from recent to furthest after a loss to catch a winning run.

It will keep someone busy placing bets and keeping track of the numbers, but if it works playing the sectors, how can it not work playing the individual numbers?

I think there are a lot of bet progression methods that can enhance the units won per spin.  Flat bet for a predetermined number of spins  as long as you're staying ahead during those 10 spins, stay at 1 unit.  If down after 10 spins increase by 1 unit per number.  Play the next 10 spins at the increase amount per number unless you reach a new high bank.

We could even be a little more conservative and if we're betting 2 units per number, we could drop back down to 1 unit per number if we win back to where we were at the end of our 10 spins with 1 unit on each number.  This will help keep our bets from escalating out of control if we enter a really long section of very bad choppiness.

Increasing each number by a unit makes our progression: 18-36-54-72-90-108-126 etc...  Maybe the leveller idea should be employed.  Use our progression until we get to like 54 units and stay at that level until we reach a new high bank amount.

Just thinking out loud my friend.  I know you've also been thinking how to improve this over just a flat bet, that is unless a flat bet wins enough to make it worth the time invested.

G

[TwoCatSam]

What happened to website with the numbers?

Gadzooks!!  It's gone!!

[Robeenhuut]

Gadzooks!!  It's gone!!

Sabotaged?  Any suspects?

[Twisteruk]

Hope it comes back, was great to watch the drama unfold 

[Robeenhuut]

Hope it comes back, was great to watch the drama unfold  :LoL:

Yeah, i guess it was just a temporary malfunction      We should ask Bayes...

[TwoCatSam]

"Round up the usual suspects."

[F_LAT_INO]

Dear F_LAT_INO,

This is the purest way to play your unique concept of jumping back and fourth from recent to furthest after a loss to catch a winning run.

It will keep someone busy placing bets and keeping track of the numbers, but if it works playing the sectors, how can it not work playing the individual numbers?

I think there are a lot of bet progression methods that can enhance the units won per spin.  Flat bet for a predetermined number of spins  as long as you're staying ahead during those 10 spins, stay at 1 unit.  If down after 10 spins increase by 1 unit per number.  Play the next 10 spins at the increase amount per number unless you reach a new high bank.

We could even be a little more conservative and if we're betting 2 units per number, we could drop back down to 1 unit per number if we win back to where we were at the end of our 10 spins with 1 unit on each number.  This will help keep our bets from escalating out of control if we enter a really long section of very bad choppiness.

Increasing each number by a unit makes our progression: 18-36-54-72-90-108-126 etc...  Maybe the leveller idea should be employed.  Use our progression until we get to like 54 units and stay at that level until we reach a new high bank amount.

Just thinking out loud my friend.  I know you've also been thinking how to improve this over just a flat bet, that is unless a flat bet wins enough to make it worth the time invested.

G

--This afternoon had a few hours session on airball machine/as don't think will be going playing
night sessions in casino until don't get fit--lol/---and played as Wally suggested progress on each losing spin by 1 and min.1 on a win.......most of the session was on starting 2 ch.per sector,on chops reached 5 most.Your suggestion is very near how I really imagine it to play.

[Turner]

Ok guys, here's the link to the site where you can follow John's progress (note: the format of the results is SELECTION  STAKE  WIN/LOSS  BANK) -

link:://:.gigabean.co.uk/jltest.html

6 units down, 394 to go. 

Hi Bayes...or anyone?

I find this link dead.....any ideas?

[superman]

any ideas?

Maybe JL has asked for it's removal , JL, what's happening chap?

[Wally Gator]

Dear F_LAT_INO,

This is the purest way to play your unique concept of jumping back and fourth from recent to furthest after a loss to catch a winning run.

It will keep someone busy placing bets and keeping track of the numbers, but if it works playing the sectors, how can it not work playing the individual numbers?

I think there are a lot of bet progression methods that can enhance the units won per spin.  Flat bet for a predetermined number of spins  as long as you're staying ahead during those 10 spins, stay at 1 unit.  If down after 10 spins increase by 1 unit per number.  Play the next 10 spins at the increase amount per number unless you reach a new high bank.

We could even be a little more conservative and if we're betting 2 units per number, we could drop back down to 1 unit per number if we win back to where we were at the end of our 10 spins with 1 unit on each number.  This will help keep our bets from escalating out of control if we enter a really long section of very bad choppiness.

Increasing each number by a unit makes our progression: 18-36-54-72-90-108-126 etc...  Maybe the leveller idea should be employed.  Use our progression until we get to like 54 units and stay at that level until we reach a new high bank amount.

Just thinking out loud my friend.  I know you've also been thinking how to improve this over just a flat bet, that is unless a flat bet wins enough to make it worth the time invested.

G

George, I'm not sure this would be the best progression.  The reason is because the amount of time spent on this method of play can be long and tiring.  I am more of the opinion to simply add 1 or more to each session until you hit your target and leave.  I also believe that there are multiple ways to get the most out of this strategy: (1) play as it is currently written, (2) play to +1 or -1 and go up either way on the next session.  This means you are playing the remainder of the session virtually, (3) play Winkel's progression strategy within each session.  So, you are now increasing within each session.  That sequence would continue into the next session if you're not in plus.  (4) play as (3) but follow the progression at the beginning of each session, as opposed to within the session.


I've not had a change to do any extensive testing on this, I'm just going by what I see happening during my real play.  Often times when my play is going up and down and I look down at my recordings I think "had I just played +1 -1 during the sessions, I'd be out of here by now".  Anyway, just a few thoughts ....

[Johnlegend]

Sabotaged?  Any suspects?

I told Bayes a lot of my results had been deleted apart from most of the first days play 6/7/12 and my most recent games. He is working on fixing the problem Hutt. My current balance is 129 points. He advised me not to play until he has fixed the problem.

[Johnlegend]

Hope it comes back, was great to watch the drama unfold  :LoL:

Great to see you back Twister how are you? Yes I'm down but don't Count me out I'm a fighter. And I'm coming back. With tight sensible play. And a stop-loss to make sure I never undo over a weeks work in one session ever again. Its one step backwards and two steps forward from here on.