The JL Challenge

Johnlegend · Jul 22, 01:51 AM 2012

Quote from: superman on Jul 21, 05:46 PM 2012

Maybe JL has asked for it's removal , JL, what's happening chap?

No Superman, never mark me down as a quitter. What happened as I said to Hutt was on Friday night when I saved my current win and went to check the site. All that was there was most of my first days play on 06/07/2012. And the last result I uploaded 126 points. I played and won three more games of Pattern Breaker after that. And it recorded them to give me a current total of 129 points. But I thought I had better report this strange occurance to Bayes.

His comeback was he too had noticed this. But he didn't have time to really look at it. He advised me not to play until he does. And I am awaiting comeback from him on the issue. In the meantime I think he closed the link while he investigates the problem.

superman · Jul 22, 02:49 AM 2012

QuoteNo Superman, never mark me down as a quitter

It was tongue in cheek, I haven't written you off ...... yet, Bayes should be able to get it fixed.

Bayes · Jul 22, 02:51 AM 2012

Hi guys,

I've spent some time trying to solve this problem, what's happening is that the html doc. seems to be corrupted when it gets to a certain size. Unfortunately I haven't been able to figure out why (Skakus' results seem fine at the moment, presumably because he hasn't made as many bets as JL).

So anyway the alternative I propose is to do away with the web site and instead use a database (which will be on JL's pc). The results will be saved to the database, which won't be accessible to JL (but he will be able to print out each session's results), and every couple of weeks or so I'll ask him to send me the database from which I'll extract the results and upload them to the forum. This won't be as much fun for members to follow the progress, but at least the test will be free from any long-term problems.

Hopefully I'll be able to make the necessary changes in the next couple of days.

Unfortunately most of the previous data was lost, but I can confirm that JL's bank stands at 129 units (the current bank is held in a separate text file on the server). So 129 units will be the new starting bank.

vundarosa · Jul 22, 03:09 AM 2012

why not keep things as they are, website and all, and just keep reseting after some x number of bets or of days?

vundarosa

Johnlegend · Jul 22, 03:10 AM 2012

Quote from: Bayes on Jul 22, 02:51 AM 2012
Hi guys,

I've spent some time trying to solve this problem, what's happening is that the html doc. seems to be corrupted when it gets to a certain size. Unfortunately I haven't been able to figure out why (Skakus' results seem fine at the moment, presumably because he hasn't made as many bets as JL).

So anyway the alternative I propose is to do away with the web site and instead use a database (which will be on JL's pc). The results will be saved to the database, which won't be accessible to JL (but he will be able to print out each session's results), and every couple of weeks or so I'll ask him to send me the database from which I'll extract the results and upload them to the forum. This won't be as much fun for members to follow the progress, but at least the test will be free from any long-term problems.

Hopefully I'll be able to make the necessary changes in the next couple of days.

Unfortunately most of the previous data was lost, but I can confirm that JL's bank stands at 129 units (the current bank is held in a separate text file on the server). So 129 units will be the new starting bank.

Okay thanks Bayes, so that means play is off limits to me until you send me this database?? I was looking forward to continuing my saga with the RNG today but nevermind. I will wait for the database.

Johnlegend · Jul 22, 03:14 AM 2012

Quote from: vundarosa on Jul 22, 03:09 AM 2012
why not keep things as they are, website and all, and just keep reseting after some x number of bets or of days?

vundarosa

That is an idea Bayes. I dont think members really care about seeing every result. Just the bottom line at the end of the day. Can I eventually beat this RNG or not? I think thats a good suggestion by Vundarosa.

Bayes · Jul 22, 03:24 AM 2012

Quote from: vundarosa on Jul 22, 03:09 AM 2012
why not keep things as they are, website and all, and just keep reseting after some x number of bets or of days?

vundarosa

Good suggestion, and that will save me the extra work.

ok. I'll just clear the site every week or so. I'll do that now, you should be ready to go in a few minutes John - actually, give it half an hour.

superman · Jul 22, 03:27 AM 2012

Bayes, Can't you just overwrite/replace the existing file every time he finishes a session? instead of adding to it, that would keep the size down.

Johnlegend · Jul 22, 03:34 AM 2012

Quote from: Bayes on Jul 22, 03:24 AM 2012
Good suggestion, and that will save me the extra work.

ok. I'll just clear the site every week or so. I'll do that now, you should be ready to go in a few minutes John - actually, give it half an hour.

Great Bayes, and anyone who wants to keep track of every session I play can simply save my sessions on a folder on their P.C I've saved most of my previous play and Bayes could do the same for detailed study to find out if say Pattern breaker does achieve the 10/1-----12/1 I say is possible played Hit and Run.

Bayes · Jul 22, 03:38 AM 2012

superman, so you mean only the last session is shown? yeah I could do that. It would save me having to clear the file every so often, but that only takes a couple of minutes. If I make that change I'll have to change the code in the program and send JL the updated version, plus it might be nice to see a few sessions at a time on the site. I'll leave it up to JL to decide.

You should be ok to carry on now John.

Johnlegend · Jul 22, 03:46 AM 2012

Quote from: Bayes on Jul 22, 03:38 AM 2012
superman, so you mean only the last session is shown? yeah I could do that. It would save me having to clear the file every so often, but that only takes a couple of minutes. If I make that change I'll have to change the code in the program and send JL the updated version, plus it might be nice to see a few sessions at a time on the site. I'll leave it up to JL to decide.

You should be ok to carry on now John.

I think the last 100 plays should always be there for members to see. And those that want to simply save them every few days, if they want the whole story.

Turner · Jul 24, 04:56 PM 2012

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jul 22, 03:46 AM 2012
I think the last 100 plays should always be there for members to see. And those that want to simply save them every few days, if they want the whole story.

John, Is there any chance of a quick precis of whats happened so far. I was following it, then i went on holiday...and Im confused. If its too much trouble I understand.

Turner

TwoCatSam · Jul 24, 08:07 PM 2012

All

You gots to say one thing for John--his draw downs are tiny compared to most. Three or four units at most.

Very impressive!

Sam

TwoCatSam · Jul 25, 05:36 PM 2012

Methinks Bayes is right: This can't be luck.

Keep yer kool, JL.

Sam

Johnlegend · Jul 25, 06:00 PM 2012

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 25, 05:36 PM 2012
Methinks Bayes is right: This can't be luck.

Keep yer kool, JL.

Sam

Will do Sam, its taken me a long time to get a feel for Bayes Rng. I've tried a lot of methods on it. Some worked. Better than others. Now I'm trying the very first method I really got moving with. THE ZONE. Concentrating on dozen 1 and 3. I think its going to do very well. All the playing I've done simce 6/7/12 was written as numbers so I. Could run several methods across them. The Zone has out performed everything else so far. Rngs set Into trends just like live wheels. By early August I have faith I'll Be the right side off 300 points and will never look back. Watch this space.

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