The JL Challenge

Johnlegend · Jul 28, 05:41 AM 2012

Quote from: Twisteruk on Jul 28, 05:21 AM 2012
I'm impressed JL, keep goin

I will Twister good to hear from you again. I hope you are doing well.

TwoCatSam · Jul 29, 03:51 PM 2012

Gents

Something is wrong--either my brain or the website.

I logged on just before church this morning and there were several sessions for 7/29 and the total was +172. Now there is only one session and the total is much lower---142 or something.

Did I dream this? Did anyone else see it?

Sam

Stepkevh · Jul 29, 04:04 PM 2012

i see +146 now

Stephan

TwoCatSam · Jul 29, 05:08 PM 2012

OK 146

But it was very different!

Sam

TwoCatSam · Jul 30, 08:30 PM 2012

And now the 146 is gone!!

That's very strange.

He's at 170 now.

And the website has been changed. Far less days.

Where's the 146??

Sam

Stepkevh · Jul 31, 12:20 AM 2012

a yes,

day 29 is gone.

but isnt the last day the most important one, so we can see how far JL is right now

Johnlegend · Jul 31, 12:57 AM 2012

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 30, 08:30 PM 2012
And now the 146 is gone!!

That's very strange.

He's at 170 now.

And the website has been changed. Far less days.

Where's the 146??

Sam

Hi Sam every time I play 20-30 games when the results are uploaded it deletes a lot of the previous results. And keeps the most recent plays. This happened first time last week. And Bayes reset the page to my current balance, which was 129 points at the time. So long as I get my most recent balance I don't mind. So you are not seeing things. I was at 172 Sunday, lost 26 points in a bad session. Now have pulled it back to 170. I'm going to try and break the 200 barrier today. Cheers...

Still · Jul 31, 02:38 AM 2012

Quote from: Stepkevh on Jul 31, 12:20 AM 2012
but isnt the last day the most important one, so we can see how far JL is right now

To me, it's important to have the entire set of data so that the stats can be analyzed and charted. I could make a spreadsheet to make this easier; doable in one click. But i'm still concerned about so much loss of data, and so frequently, that i would challenge Bayes to look into it a little more. With a full set of data, it would be possible to look at periods where JL or Skakus applied a different method, or changed money management style. For example, JL tells us he switched to the ZONE. If he could tell us exactly when he made the switch, the spreadsheet could analyze how well the ZONE is doing compared to other methods he has tried. Last but not least, without a full set of data, it's not possible to test alternative money management styles against the WinLoss patterns. So i'll see if i can get this spreadsheet together to easily gather and preserve data, but i also wish Bayes could look into a better performing web page schema.

Ralph · Jul 31, 03:49 AM 2012

I think you write the result to disk, if for any reason the file must have limited length, the script can change the filename every time it save the maxlength, so to keep all records.

Johnlegend · Jul 31, 08:29 AM 2012

Quote from: Still on Jul 31, 02:38 AM 2012
To me, it's important to have the entire set of data so that the stats can be analyzed and charted. I could make a spreadsheet to make this easier; doable in one click. But i'm still concerned about so much loss of data, and so frequently, that i would challenge Bayes to look into it a little more. With a full set of data, it would be possible to look at periods where JL or Skakus applied a different method, or changed money management style. For example, JL tells us he switched to the ZONE. If he could tell us exactly when he made the switch, the spreadsheet could analyze how well the ZONE is doing compared to other methods he has tried. Last but not least, without a full set of data, it's not possible to test alternative money management styles against the WinLoss patterns. So i'll see if i can get this spreadsheet together to easily gather and preserve data, but i also wish Bayes could look into a better performing web page schema.

Still Pm me your email and from now on I will save all my play to a file and email it to you each week. That's what we can do.

TwoCatSam · Jul 31, 09:04 AM 2012

Listen, folks....Bombus is conducting a test on VLS forum and it runs pages and pages with not one piece of data left out. (MattyMattz is ahead.)

Why--if you must cut out something--why not the oldest? Why the day before?

Mr. Still, if it's not on the official website, how do you trust it? Surely Bayes can step in here and correct this. As it is the test if flawed, John's work will be for naught and we will all be non the wiser. There is no reason for this. Who is in such a hurry they can't scroll down?

Sorry...........that's just how it shakes out.

TwoCat

Johnlegend · Jul 31, 09:27 AM 2012

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 31, 09:04 AM 2012
Listen, folks....Bombus is conducting a test on VLS forum and it runs pages and pages with not one piece of data left out. (MattyMattz is ahead.)

Why--if you must cut out something--why not the oldest? Why the day before?

Mr. Still, if it's not on the official website, how do you trust it? Surely Bayes can step in here and correct this. As it is the test if flawed, John's work will be for naught and we will all be non the wiser. There is no reason for this. Who is in such a hurry they can't scroll down?

Sorry...........that's just how it shakes out.

TwoCat

Sam my latest balance will always be on the official website. Anyome interested can simply see how I arrived there. Strikerate, staking wins losses etc. I still have to beat this tough Rng to get a bigger balance.

TwoCatSam · Jul 31, 10:10 AM 2012

John

Maybe I've been watching too many cops and robbers and lawyers shows but the evidence is tainted!

If what you say is true, we only need to see one entry: Doz1 2 199. That tells us where you are; we want to know how you go there.

Inquiring minds want to know what happened between 146 and 172. Did you go broke and so Bayes kicked you up to 172 'cause he's a good ol' boy? In the real world in real testing, that is a viable question.

I had so hoped for an unimpeachable test; this is not it.

Sam

Johnlegend · Jul 31, 10:41 AM 2012

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 31, 10:10 AM 2012
John

Maybe I've been watching too many cops and robbers and lawyers shows but the evidence is tainted!

If what you say is true, we only need to see one entry: Doz1 2 199. That tells us where you are; we want to know how you go there.

Inquiring minds want to know what happened between 146 and 172. Did you go broke and so Bayes kicked you up to 172 'cause he's a good ol' boy? In the real world in real testing, that is a viable question.

I had so hoped for an unimpeachable test; this is not it.

Sam

Sam there is no way Bayes is going to do that. Don't you remember him asking me to. Consider conceding defeat when I hit 115 on the 18th? Where is Bayes anyway he has been off the site for a while. Like I said until Bayes can improve this. I will save all my results. So anyone can see them. The bottom line is you either beat this Rng or you don't Just ask skakus.

TwoCatSam · Jul 31, 10:49 AM 2012

JL

Bro, I'm not going to get into it with you any more over this stuff.

Frankly, I don't think Bayes would toss you a bone!! That was an example of what could be thought in this case.

I don't want the results from you. Bayes was supposed to set up a test which could not be altered. It has been altered. I wanted the results from a program which spits out the truth good or bad.

Let me sing THE MOODY BLUES........

"....just what the truth is; I can't say any more..."

Won't sing you the next line!! LOL

Samster

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