The JL Challenge

[TwoCatSam]

Bayes

I don't think you're in cahoots with anyone.  I have the utmost respect for you and your efforts.  As to Skakus, his test is just not on my radar as I have a full full plate.

When someone tells me they have a perpetual motion machine in their garage--pardon me if I want to see it.  Can you make water run uphill.  Let's see it.

Can you do what John claims to do.  Let's see it.

You know, Dublin can been seen by anyone.  He could arrange a time to log on and anyone interested could follow the numbers.   He could post a video of his betting and no swingin' dick on the planet could dispute the results.

But such a test would reveal the truth.....

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

John......I'm all for you winning.  I hope you do.

BUT

I want to know you really won.  Sorry, but I'll not take your word for it and I'd not expect you to take mine. 

If Bayes verifies the results as being accurate, that's good enough for me. 

But how does Bayes know what he's seeing?  Is he seeing what you edit it for him to see?

Sam

[Johnlegend]

John......I'm all for you winning.  I hope you do.

BUT

I want to know you really won.  Sorry, but I'll not take your word for it and I'd not expect you to take mine. 

If Bayes verifies the results as being accurate, that's good enough for me. 

But how does Bayes know what he's seeing?  Is he seeing what you edit it for him to see?

Sam

Don't take my word for it, but do take Bayes. Both me and Skakus should play his new proposed version its as close to your proposal as you can get. AND you'll get your wish in 3 or 4 months. The problem I have with doing your idea is SPEED. I could win 100,200,300 games. What will that prove? Here I have to make it to 5000 against an Rng that's a decent sample in anyones book.

[amk]

Wow,


Just came from posting on BV Fun Mode: Max BR.


When JohnLegend began this thread I new it would be something else.


2Cat is just trying to help. This test is serious and it must be done in the best way possible. We have Bayes and JL working together, only good things can come from this.


Do I trust the results at the moment, yes. Can they be tampered with probably.


Bayes, I can only suggest that we have more monitors in some fashion.

[Bayes]

But how does Bayes know what he's seeing?  Is he seeing what you edit it for him to see?

Sam, I'll be using the SHA-1 Cryptographic hash function to make sure that none of the saved sessions have been altered. If it's good enough for the U.S. Government, it should be good enough for you. 

By the way, Betvoyager also use this in their "randomness control".

[Bayes]

@ John,

Would you mind posting the last line of your results, and also the date of the last session you played? I know the final bank is 520 units but I need the other data too (just the last line will be enough). Thanks.

[Ralph]

Anybody able to crack the SHA-1 Cryptographic hash function  will not test at all, he will know before the numbers at BV, and be playing all the games in real mode!

[superman]

By the way, Betvoyager also use this in their "randomness control".

SHA-256 is used by them

Anybody able to crack the SHA-1 Cryptographic hash function  will not test at all, he will know before the numbers at BV, and be playing all the games in real mode!

Forget it, mission impossible

[Ralph]

SHA-256 is used by them
 
Forget it, mission impossible

My statement were for they who may think the method is not good for the challenge here!

[Johnlegend]

@ John,

Would you mind posting the last line of your results, and also the date of the last session you played? I know the final bank is 520 units but I need the other data too (just the last line will be enough). Thanks.

Yes Bayes its

08/03/2012
DOZ1.  1.  W.  521
DOZ3.  1.  L.   520

[Bayes]

SHA-256 is used by them
 

My mistake. I knew it was some species of SHA.

Thanks John. You'll get the updated software tomorrow.

Thinking about it, this is actually more foolproof than uploading the results to a web site. For suppose JL  hacked into the server and changed the data;  if he did, I might never know about it, and he might get away with it. But using the hash function, I will definitely know if any tampering has occurred. It doesn't actually matter if JL succeeds in altering the results, because he'll only be able to do it once, then he'll be disqualified. 

[Johnlegend]

My mistake. I knew it was some species of SHA.

Thanks John. You'll get the updated software tomorrow.

Thinking about it, this is actually more foolproof than uploading the results to a web site. For suppose JL  hacked into the server and changed the data;  if he did, I might never know about it, and he might get away with it. But using the hash function, I will definitely know if any tampering has occurred. It doesn't actually matter if JL succeeds in altering the results, because he'll only be able to do it once, then he'll be disqualified. 

I have trouble getting Into my email Bayes so forget that. No with what I have on my hands now its the casinos who will need help. Not myself, I'm going to see how far I can take this winning streak. Both Double Match and FIVE are flourishing on rngs and live. Look forward to continuing my campaign.

[Skakus]

>>> As to Skakus, his test is just not on my radar as I have a full full plate.<<<

Perfect! 

[Bayes]

Perfect! 

Skakus the hacker? 

[Robeenhuut]

JL challenge is like olympic games and Skakus like world championship