The JL Challenge

Skakus · Aug 07, 04:40 AM 2012

Quote from: Bayes on Aug 07, 04:34 AM 2012
Skakus the hacker?

And a damn good one at that!

I'm done with roulette, I'm going off to join a hacker's forum where my talents might be more appreciated!

Johnlegend · Aug 07, 05:58 AM 2012

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Aug 07, 04:40 AM 2012
JL challenge is like olympic games and Skakus like world championship

So do you think Im in with a chance for gold Hutt?

Skakus · Aug 07, 06:11 AM 2012

I've been thinking about the +5000 or -500 challenge limits put forward by JL, and I'm not sure if it's the best option, especially because we are playing different probabilities/progressions?

What about a placed bet amount total instead?

What would be an acceptable number of bets for EC or DOZ/COL bets using progressions?

For example 10,000 placed EC bets with a bankroll still intact? What about 20,000 placed EC bets with a bankroll still intact?

Any opinions?

Johnlegend · Aug 07, 12:13 PM 2012

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After one month of hard persistent play. I have finally doubled my Bankroll. I continue on from here hopelfully all the way to 5000 points.

Johnlegend · Aug 07, 12:18 PM 2012

Quote from: Skakus on Aug 07, 06:11 AM 2012
I've been thinking about the +5000 or -500 challenge limits put forward by JL, and I'm not sure if it's the best option, especially because we are playing different probabilities/progressions?

What about a placed bet amount total instead?

What would be an acceptable number of bets for EC or DOZ/COL bets using progressions?

For example 10,000 placed EC bets with a bankroll still intact? What about 20,000 placed EC bets with a bankroll still intact?

Any opinions?

That sounds interesting Skakus. I think ultimately we should let Bayes decide. Because it has to be a big enough sample to convince most people that we couldnt ever lose our Bankrolls. I dont care if the target is 5,000---10,000 even 20,000.

atlantis · Aug 07, 12:21 PM 2012

Hi JL,

I'm very impressed with your latest results. Good to see you back on track and in the profit zone. From now on the sky's the limit?

A.

Johnlegend · Aug 07, 12:25 PM 2012

Quote from: atlantis on Aug 07, 12:21 PM 2012
Hi JL,

I'm very impressed with your latest results. Good to see you back on track and in the profit zone. From now on the sky's the limit?

A.

Hi Atlantis, yes I slipped I stumbled and I fell. But I never gave up. Now I will work my way up to 4 figures by the weekend hopefully. And maybe even catch Skakus and be in front for once.

Johnlegend · Aug 07, 01:06 PM 2012

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I have finished the days play with some games of PATTERN BREAKER. To give me a total of 620 POINTS.

GARNabby · Aug 07, 01:34 PM 2012

Quote from: Bayes on Aug 06, 11:03 AM 2012
@ GARNabby,

The reason I deleted some of your posts (not all of them) was because some of them were off-topic and/or personal attacks. I don't have the time or inclination to get involved in a p1ssing contest with you or anyone else. By the way, any thread starter can delete any posts he/she feels are inappropriate, they are the moderators of their own threads.

Hey Steve, just ban me from also this board of yours. Big waste of time!

speed · Aug 07, 01:56 PM 2012

Quote from: GARNabby on Aug 07, 01:34 PM 2012

Big waste of time!

This topic is really a big waste of time (for me)...
thanks bayes for software who showed a lot, who wants to understand

POUNDMAKER · Aug 07, 04:22 PM 2012

I really do wish that people would stick with the thread topic - IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT - GO ELSEWHERE - do not criticise the people that are trying to help all of us achieve our goal - to beat this game, let play continue in peace, please.

My humble opinion,

Alf

TwoCatSam · Aug 07, 04:50 PM 2012

So is this the latest deal...........

John posts his play and Bayes verifies it?

Sam

trebor · Aug 07, 05:26 PM 2012

This has probably been explained somewhere but I can't find it.

How are the numbers presented to JL? Presumably one at a time.

Trebor

Still · Aug 08, 02:38 AM 2012

Here is a chart of the data i already collected, plus what was posted above...
[attach=1]

Here's a chart with data supplied by John Legend from 202 + via email and posted above...
[attach=2]

Here is the spreadsheet i'm using for now...
[attachurl=3]

Skakus · Aug 08, 02:48 AM 2012

That is a very impressive final section on those charts!

Hey JL, can you PM me your new MO?

I want to change from mine to yours so you can't catch me >>

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