The JL Challenge

[Bayes]

Thanks Skakus for being such a good sport, and an excellent result. 

By the way, for the naysayers who say that Skakus' result is meaningless because there weren't enough bets made, or it could be a fluke etc, are wrong. True, a result of almost 3 standard deviations could occur by chance, but it's one thing to make thousands of bets and eventually hit a sequence where you get 3 STD; that would happen for ANYONE if they play long enough, but this was a ONE-OFF test, and as such the results are highly significant, statistically speaking.

[Johnlegend]

So now I stop.

I have won 1000 units. my bankroll is a healthy 1300 units.

Bets 4269
W    2170
L     2099

+71

z-score 2.92

link:://:.gigabean.co.uk/s_test.html


Laid it on the line and done better than anyone I've ever seen do in one of these challenges. I'm happy with that result.

See you in the casino!

Skakus thankyou. There's no way you would have lost that lead, so I consider you a success also. Now I have to match you and go the right side of 5000 points by years end hopefully. Also I like Bayes idea for an online play centre. And I've already told him I will front half the cost if and when he is ready to go for it. Thanks again Skakus for your goodwill. And very well done.

[Still]

You Type totally different Iggiv......you can't be them.

@turncoatfeck
I not JL. Me not typing same same JL. What thinking you this thing?  Jesus!...on other hand, he be one with me and i wid him.   What saying you at  most even da tiniest my roulette brothers, saying you dat @ me.  Put dat text in em sin-tax pipe and dat be smoke ya!

@Skakus
Way to go!   Up +71 flat-betting after 4269+ bets is saying something.  Should be down -100 or more.  Did you ever repeat the kind of system+mm you used in your first run-up?

@JohnLegend
Looking forward to +5000.   The count-up on Skakus' old page restarted at 520 and is up to 584 today.  Is that you?

[Johnlegend]

@turncoatfeck
I not JL. Me not typing same same JL. What thinking you this thing?  Jesus!...on other hand, he be one with me and i wid him.   What saying you at  most even da tiniest my roulette brothers, saying you dat @ me.  Put dat text in em sin-tax pipe and dat be smoke ya!

@Skakus
Way to go!   Up +71 flat-betting after 4269+ bets is saying something.  Should be down -100 or more.  Did you ever repeat the kind of system+mm you used in your first run-up?

@JohnLegend
Looking forward to +5000.   The count-up on Skakus' old page restarted at 520 and is up to 584 today.  Is that you?

Yes Still its me. Im using Skakus old sofware as hopefully there wont be any bugs in it for me either.

[Still]

This chart is accumulative.  JL has been set back a couple of times due to software issues.  If you believe that there has been no hanky-panky, as i do, then this is where it stands.  This does not accurately reflect the number of bets because the spreadsheet is counting the date lines where a new session starts as well as a few blank lines.  Link here:

link:://:.gigabean.co.uk/s_test.html

JL data starts at 520.  Earlier data is Skakus'.

[superman]

Put dat text in em sin-tax pipe and dat be smoke ya!

:LoL:

[Johnlegend]

This chart is accumulative.  JL has been set back a couple of times due to software issues.  If you believe that there has been no hanky-panky, as i do, then this is where it stands.  This does not accurately reflect the number of bets because the spreadsheet is counting the date lines where a new session starts as well as a few blank lines.  Link here:

link:://:.gigabean.co.uk/s_test.html

JL data starts at 520.  Earlier data is Skakus'.

I will try to keep reaching for the stars Still. Had a great session today. After all the setbacks. I was actually at 1005 points. But had to sacrifice it and drop back to 520 with all the software changes. I am now at 700 points after a 180 point rise tonight. I was taken to the limit with FIVE once tonight. Its holding superbly. My experience with the ZONE. May have landed a grail like method in my lap. I am only using one trigger. With two triggers and a five step progression. I think its impregnable.


Because random (even more so than with matrix vertical 5) runs out of steam by the time it gets to 3 fives most of the time. I saw one 5 in all the years I've tested and played the ZONE. And even when I am stretched to the 4th step of the progression. Its usually not pure. By that I mean a zero was responsible for at least one of the losses.

Fingers crossed it looks like I will get the same reliability that Skakus had with this program.

[Turner]

@turncoatfeck
I not JL. Me not typing same same JL. What thinking you this thing?  Jesus!...on other hand, he be one with me and i wid him.   What saying you at  most even da tiniest my roulette brothers, saying you dat @ me.  Put dat text in em sin-tax pipe and dat be smoke ya!

LoL....the old "type like a chinese shop keeper" routine to diguise your typing.
Its the oldest trick in the book.

[Johnlegend]

LoL....the old "type like a chinese shop keeper" routine to diguise your typing.
Its the oldest trick in the book.

Turnerfeck I cant believe you still think I am STILL. Come on its a new day its a new dawn lets live and work together in harmony on the forum.

[Turner]

Turnerfeck I can't believe you still think I am STILL. Come on its a new day its a new dawn lets live and work together in harmony on the forum.

John...I'm joking for petes sake.....I don't think you are still LoL

as you can see in my recent post, I am capable of at least thinking outside the box if nothing else. I'm still trying to see roulette from a different angle. Its hard to break the old ways.

Your comments help thanks....

That was harmonious wasnt it

[Skakus]

@Skakus
Way to go!   Up +71 flat-betting after 4269+ bets is saying something.  Should be down -100 or more.  Did you ever repeat the kind of system+mm you used in your first run-up?

I used the same system(s) all the way through. The MM was basically the same right through too, except that I removed the stages and just maintained the one level of betting, I also settled on the stop-loss of -108 units at some point. Towards the end I was starting sessions with any extra chips won or saved from the previous session. I was and still am tweaking both the selection method and the MM but it's close to water tight now I think.

[iggiv]

John...I'm joking for petes sake.....I don't think you are still LoL

as you can see in my recent post, I am capable of at least thinking outside the box if nothing else. I'm still trying to see roulette from a different angle. Its hard to break the old ways.

Your comments help thanks....

That was harmonious wasn't it

that's a paradox here. JL is still JL, but Still is still not JL.
Or should i say JL is still not Still but Still is still Still

I am really confused.

[Robeenhuut]

08/15/2012 DOZ1     2   L   590 DOZ2     2   L   588 DOZ1     4   L   584 DOZ3     4   L   580 DOZ2    12   L   568 DOZ3    12   L   556 DOZ1    36   L   520 DOZ2    36   L   484 DOZ1    36   L   448 DOZ2    36   W   520 DOZ2    50   W   620 DOZ3    50   L   570 DOZ1    10   L   560 DOZ2    10   W   580 

08/15/2012 DOZ1     8   L   572 DOZ3     8   W   588 

08/15/2012 DOZ1     4   L   584 DOZ2     4   W   592


Hello John

Very gutsy betting to get back to level.   Betting 100u.
I'm curious what your next bet would be if you lost that 100u bet.
I'm becoming a believer.

Regards

[Johnlegend]

08/15/2012 DOZ1     2   L   590 DOZ2     2   L   588 DOZ1     4   L   584 DOZ3     4   L   580 DOZ2    12   L   568 DOZ3    12   L   556 DOZ1    36   L   520 DOZ2    36   L   484 DOZ1    36   L   448 DOZ2    36   W   520 DOZ2    50   W   620 DOZ3    50   L   570 DOZ1    10   L   560 DOZ2    10   W   580 

08/15/2012 DOZ1     8   L   572 DOZ3     8   W   588 

08/15/2012 DOZ1     4   L   584 DOZ2     4   W   592


Hello John

Very gutsy betting to get back to level.   Betting 100u.
I'm curious what your next bet would be if you lost that 100u bet.
I'm becoming a believer.

Regards

Hello Hutt the next step would be a cup of tea and lick my wounds. You won't see me betting like that for some time again. I was cutting. Corners to try and get back up there. Relying on the solid strikerate of 5. I'm on the standard 80 unit four step progression now until I lose it.

I think 5 as I play it could have a strikerate somewhere in the region of 400/1 longterm. The way id like to play it with a 242 unit five step progression. It might be a grail. Ive only seen one 5. I've never seen a 6. But I'm limited to 100 units max so I can't play the 5th step.

Anyhow let's see what the longterm will give me for 80 units and four steps.

[Robeenhuut]

Hello Hutt the next step would be a cup of tea and lick my wounds. You won't see me betting like that for some time again. I was cutting. Corners to try and get back up there. Relying on the solid strikerate of 5. I'm on the standard 80 unit four step progression now until I lose it.

I think 5 as I play it could have a strikerate somewhere in the region of 400/1 longterm. The way id like to play it with a 242 unit five step progression. It might be a grail. I've only seen one 5. I've never seen a 6. But I'm limited to 100 units max so I can't play the 5th step.

Anyhow let's see what the longterm will give me for 80 units and four steps.

Hehe John

I did not think you would continue this way  But if you are so confident of your strike rate then maybe adjust your progression so you would win in first 3 steps and break even on 4th step and lose a bit on the last one. Straight Marty for DZ is a bit scary 
But its your challenge so good luck.

Regards