The JL Challenge

[Johnlegend]

A system is something that will eventually be caught up by random which = the player feeling cheated, robbed, mugged, raped, violated etc etc

A method on the otherhand is a style of play that relies on what's happening currently from the RNG (not real wheels as they are random) RNG's have a good tendency of producing the same happenings at the same intervals over time, understanding these happenings is key, but even then the gaps between these happenings can vary, a lot.

I think Superman has summed it up pretty well. That said, if you find a system that is so strong. It can beat random several hundred to one. You can go Into auto pilot and just watch it collect profit. That's what I have with FIVE. Ive only identified one loss. In 3500 betting oppurtunities. And it took a zero to do that.

Overall it cannot lose. It came to mind while playing the Zone. You have to wait for random. But its turnover is faster than MV5. The only thing I can compare to it.

[Drazen]

This was invented by a guy named Martin Gayle. 

With all due respect to that man of yours Martin Gayle whoever he is...

Martingale is English for martegal (French dialiect word meaning inhabitant of Martigues; Martigues is - or was - a village in France). The oldest meaning of martingale seems to be is a piece of tack used on horses to control head carriage. This meaning is, at least, the best known one, but another meaning is more important for us: martingale is a betting strategy.  The gambler doubles his bet after every loss, so that the first win would recover all previous losses plus win a profit equal to the original stake. Traders give this name to all related strategies, as well. Mathematicians, besides, use the term of martingale to name a stochastic process in which the conditional expectation of the next value, given the current and preceding values, is the current value. It is a kind of "fair game" where nobody wins and nobody loses. As to that French village, Martigues, its inhabitants were considered to be eccentric and probably venturesome. Anyway, this multitude of meanings is sometimes the reason why some people use it in a wrong way.

Cheers mr. TCS

Drazen

[superman]

I had hoped Johnlegend would post a set of hard-and-fast rules as he said he would

Me too Sam, this whole test/challenge was started as JL said he had the ONE system that would kill RNG day and night, so in a real world he has failed the challenge. The fact that the challenge has now morphed into the use of multiple systems is irrelevent to the initial reasoning behind the challenge, it's now simply to see if he, the person, can beat the RNG using whatever system for whatever duration he wants, as hit n run is now also in the mix.

[Turner]

Me too Sam, this whole test/challenge was started as JL said he had the ONE system that would kill RNG day and night, so in a real world he has failed the challenge. The fact that the challenge has now morphed into the use of multiple systems is irrelevent to the initial reasoning behind the challenge, it's now simply to see if he, the person, can beat the RNG using whatever system for whatever duration he wants, as hit n run is now also in the mix.

Well this is what i meant when i said that the thread has lost its way....but i got my head chewed off for it

[TwoCatSam]

" That's what I have with FIVE. I've only identified one loss. In 3500 betting opportunities. And it took a zero to do that."

So, John, the FIVE is pretty salty!! 

Can I get an unequivocal promise from you that you will post this system when you have reached 5,000--as you have said?

Sam

[Ralph]

Hit and run?  He still seems to  hit, lets wait for the run.

[Stepkevh]

Sam,

In Reply 574 on previous page John says he will tell it at 2000 instead of 5000

[TwoCatSam]

You're right!  I don't know 2000 from 5000!!

But that's good news.  We should be getting the system in nothing flat!

Sam

[amk]

I think what JohnLegend is doing is great. He does not have to do this at all, could just spend this time playing. Instead he feels confident enough to play his style of roulette on a RNG and be successful in a friendly challenge. Not only that but he will show us the way if he is indeed successful. In my book that is a nice person. Remember nobody is perfect and we all slip up at times with things we say and do.


I don't care how JL wins on the RNG, its all good


Thanks JL and only wish everyone the best.

[dino246]

I AGREE with the above !!!!

All the VERY best of LUCK to EVERYONE who has a POSITIVE attitude of mind within this forum.

Dino.

[TwoCatSam]

AMK

I'll give John one kudo!  If I could make money like he does, I'd be out making it.  He must have a gregarious heart.

Sam

[Johnlegend]

AMK

I'll give John one kudo!  If I could make money like he does, I'd be out making it.  He must have a gregarious heart.

Sam

Sam I make money, when I'm through with this challenge I will take a look at Dublinet. I don't know it well, but I know its a real casino. And slow like a real Casino.

I've got used to faster turnover play. What you guys have to keep In mind, is neither Skakus or myself would be at our current levels if we had done this on a live wheel. Bayes Rng is the fastest thing you can get.

You can condense two weeks play into two hours.

[Johnlegend]

Me too Sam, this whole test/challenge was started as JL said he had the ONE system that would kill RNG day and night, so in a real world he has failed the challenge. The fact that the challenge has now morphed into the use of multiple systems is irrelevent to the initial reasoning behind the challenge, it's now simply to see if he, the person, can beat the RNG using whatever system for whatever duration he wants, as hit n run is now also in the mix.

Superman I've got the one system that can beat anything day and night. I got it through sheer determination not to be defeated. I had another method that can beat Ladbrokes, but it wasn't as good on here. Now I have Thee method. The Zone which you think the world of, has layed the golden goose. Be happy, losing days are over for any who stick with FIVE. Hutt thinks fluke. Ill go how ever far any of you want.

Until even the most ardent pessimist will know, this games over if enough ever played Five.

[TwoCatSam]

I found "The Bone", but I can't find "The Zone".  Could anyone link me or post the rules?

[amk]

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