The JL Challenge

[SamNL]

1460 now for JL. Keep going JL! You can do it!

[Bayes]

+1560, keep it up. 

I suppose I could calculate the z-score, but it's not obvious which bets are on 2 doz/col or 1 doz/col. I should have thought about that when I wrote the code. But given the house limits, if you get to 5000 units that will be an impressive result.

What I'm sayiing to you is FIVE can be played as you put it robotically. Its going to win. The only thing you need is the patience. That's your price for success. Its by far the best method I've ever seen. And I've enthused over any method that I could win with.

This is the best of them all.

Ah, John, you can't resist hyping it up, but then a few posts later you say "let's hope I can make it to 2000". 

How can it be "the best of them all" when you obviously can't have done enough testing to know that?
Not having a go at you, it's just that you make me chuckle sometimes with the "bloviating" as Sam would say.

[Johnlegend]

+1560, keep it up. 

I suppose I could calculate the z-score, but it's not obvious which bets are on 2 doz/col or 1 doz/col. I should have thought about that when I wrote the code. But given the house limits, if you get to 5000 units that will be an impressive result.

Ah, John, you can't resist hyping it up, but then a few posts later you say "let's hope I can make it to 2000". 

How can it be "the best of them all" when you obviously can't have done enough testing to know that?
Not having a go at you, it's just that you make me chuckle sometimes with the "bloviating" as Sam would say.

Hello Bayes you know I have a penchant for over excitement. I have a good feeling about this one mainly because of my years playing the Zone. That's a lot of pre-testing right there. When you only see something lose once in over 3500 potential games albeit hit and run style. It does tend to get the bloviator engine running.

I have had a good couple of days. And have now reached 1612 points. I used a combination of PATTERN 4 and FIVE today to go from 1460 to 1612 points. I am being taken to the border more often than I like though. And I know its only a question of time before I surrender a 156 point progression. At present I stand at 701/0 for 5. The longest winning streak I've ever known. I would be happy with 300/1 So its doing pretty well.

[Robeenhuut]

John is not a math boy as he proclaimed before so z-score would not interest him but judging from the fact that lots of wins betting on DZ came in an early stage of progression i would guess 4 territory  Everybody familiar with z-score should be impressed.
Just wondering about why you bet 50 in a last bet instead of 54 to have a 2u gain.

[Johnlegend]

John is not a math boy as he proclaimed before so z-score would not interest him but judging from the fact that lots of wins betting on DZ came in an early stage of progression i would guess 4 territory  Everybody familiar with z-score should be impressed.
Just wondering about why you bet 50 in a last bet instead of 54 to have a 2u gain.

Hello Hutt, the reason is simple. my limit is 50 units on the RNG. So because I am playing for 2 points A game, the fourth bet should be 54---54 but I can only do 50---50. So in effect when I am taken to the border I have to forfeit a 4 point loss. Or two winning games. Its only a matter of time now before I lose a progression. I cant believe im at 701/0 its the best streak Ive ever had.

[Stepkevh]

RH, if he bets 50 he's break even, so if he wants 2u+ he needs to bet 52 not 54

and John, 156 point progr 2+2+8+8+16+16+50+50 = 152

or is it 156 because you decided to use 52 instead of 50 as 4th bet ?

[Robeenhuut]

Hello Hutt, the reason is simple. my limit is 50 units on the RNG. So because I am playing for 2 points A game, the fourth bet should be 54---54 but I can only do 50---50. So in effect when I am taken to the border I have to forfeit a 4 point loss. Or two winning games. Its only a matter of time now before I lose a progression. I can't believe I'm at 701/0 its the best streak I've ever had.

Of course. I overlooked the max bet limit.  And John nothing is due in roulette.  You can make it 4 digits streak.

[Stepkevh]

i take my words back, i was wrong

[Johnlegend]

RH, if he bets 50 he's break even, so if he wants 2u+ he needs to bet 52 not 54

and John, 156 point progr 2+2+8+8+16+16+50+50 = 152

or is it 156 because you decided to use 52 instead of 50 as 4th bet ?

Hello Stepkevh as I posted above I want to do this 2-2--6-6--18-18--54-54 but because the limit on the RNG is 50 points. Can only do this 2-2--6-6--18-18--50-50.
So each time I am taken to step 4 of the progression I have to forfeit 4 points.

[Johnlegend]

Of course. I overlooked the max bet limit.  And John nothing is due in roulette.  You can make it 4 digits streak.

That's true Hutt, but I am being pushed to the border more often in shorter betting cycles. It will probably happen as a result of a zero at some point. We will see.

[SamNL]

But which method do you think is better JL, Pattern Breaker or your new method FIVE?

[TwoCatSam]

I think he said FIVE

[Johnlegend]

But which method do you think is better JL, Pattern Breaker or your new method FIVE?

I think Five because it hasn't lost yet, so its potential is unknown. Whereas Pattern breaker averages 11/1 hit and run. That said PB is 7 points to buy in. FIVE 80.

[GLC]

I think Five because it hasn't lost yet, so its potential is unknown. Whereas Pattern breaker averages 11/1 hit and run. That said PB is 7 points to buy in. FIVE 80.

This post caught my eye because I know from all the systems I have tested that an 80 point buy-in gives me a lot more wins before a loss than a 7 point buy-in.

On the other hand, I leave open the possibility that the 80 point buy-in system might win more than the 90% over the 7 unit buy-in that it should.

The main question I have is,  "How would the  7 unit buy-in perform if you had 80 units backing it up instead of 7?"

Since we don't know the FIVE system yet, we'll just have to wait and see.

[ANONYMOUS]

i know i am a little late, but this is nice to see. Good job JL