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The JL Challenge

Started by Bayes, Jun 20, 06:04 PM 2012

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Robeenhuut

Quote from: GLC on Aug 26, 11:30 PM 2012

This post caught my eye because I know from all the systems I have tested that an 80 point buy-in gives me a lot more wins before a loss than a 7 point buy-in.

On the other hand, I leave open the possibility that the 80 point buy-in system might win more than the 90% over the 7 unit buy-in that it should.

The main question I have is,  "How would the  7 unit buy-in perform if you had 80 units backing it up instead of 7?"

Since we don't know the FIVE system yet, we'll just have to wait and see.

If you had 77u BR and played PB 11,22,44  the strike rate of just 8/1 would give you a better profit in any number of  games than 1,3,9,27 prog. You would constantly beat  1.3.9.27 prog with the same buy- in. You would average 11/9=1.2u a game with PB and if you had 11/1 rate then it would be 3.7u  ;D   But its just a math...
Matt

SamNL

WOW, John is almost at 1700!

Still

The following chart looks at all of John Legend's column and dozens bets.  It does not look at any even chance bets; so not comparing apples to oranges. This chart looks at units only.  The line that goes steadily down is the rate at which a gambler should be losing units.  Thus, after 5702 bets, he should be down about 76 units at the rate of 1.35 units per hundred.  Am i right? 

Another way of looking at this is if there was no zero on the wheel, then the number of units won/lost should hover around the zero line (break even).  With one zero (European wheel), the chart should hover around the straight line heading down. At first, he was losing units at a faster rate than expected.  As you can see, at some point, JL started bucking the trend and is picking up units faster than expected, either way you look at it.  And its starting to look like a non-random trend to me.

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One final observation, when JL had lost 70 units, he was down about -200 bank.   But while gaining almost 70 units back from the bottom, he has added some 1500 or 1600 to his bank.  To me that's significant.

Johnlegend

Quote from: SamNL on Aug 27, 04:25 AM 2012
WOW, John is almost at 1700!
A good session today have finished at 1770 points. I am varying the play between Dozens and Columns a but more trying to keep the winning streak going.

SamNL

Well, almost 2000 John. You'll make it

Still

This is a chart of all bets i have logged in my database.  To keep perspective, i've started the chart at zero instead of +300 bank roll.  This way we can see PROFIT.  Keep in mind that my chart has more bets and more profit over all because i've collected data pretty regular, including about +300 or so units that were officially subtracted during a time where Bayes RNG may have been considered compromised.  Since i don't think JL fooled with it, i've included those points. 
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donik7777

Hello John!
I thinking already 2000 units?
Best regards.

SamNL

Quote from: donik7777 on Aug 28, 12:48 PM 2012
Hello John!
I thinking already 2000 units?
Best regards.
John is at 1770 units now.

bossdarling

Almost there.. I can imagine how hard to reach +2000 with BR 300 and maxbet 50, in the middle of business & personal activities.

Go get 'em, Tiger John!  :thumbsup:

Cheers,
-bd

TwoCatSam

Let's not forget he dropped to 57 units!!  And from there.........

Well, I hope I got egg on my face!

Go! Go! Go Johnny Go! (Singin' like Chuck Berry!)

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Johnlegend

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Aug 28, 05:18 PM 2012
Let's not forget he dropped to 57 units!!  And from there.........

Well, I hope I got egg on my face!

Go! Go! Go Johnny Go! (Singin' like Chuck Berry!)

Sam
Love Chuck Berry into all the old vintage Rock n Roll. Well I am at 1820 now. I feel a loss is in the pipeline. So I am going to make myself less available to it by only playing 25 odd hit and run games a day until I am well over 2000 points or experience my first loss. I know it can happen because I saw one today for the columns. BUT, luckily I decided to stay with dozens today so avoided it. My winning streak is now 796/0 This is incredible for me. Its asking alot to go to 1000/ no loss. But its possible as Henry Fonda said to his 11 fellow jurors in the great film 12 angry men.

iggiv

John, good for ya man. I hope u will teach and inspire some. And i am glad your harsh critics are silent now, nothing for them to say.

Johnlegend

Quote from: iggiv on Aug 28, 07:45 PM 2012
John, good for ya man. I hope u will teach and inspire some. And i am glad your harsh critics are silent now, nothing for them to say.
Hi Iggiv well I could still hit a field of losses and lose 500 plus points. I won't feel I've achieved anything unless I reach 5000 points minumum. Id like to actuall
y get up to 10,000 points. I think 300 to 10,000 should satisfy most. That I would never move back to negative numbers. Then id like to do the same challenge with ACTUALS. Then move to live performance. Which is Sams area of expertise. So he would have to help me out if he is willing? Let's see if I can make the first milestone of 5000 points. I to have seen methods win several thousand then collapse. I want to. Convince myself as well as the forum.

donik7777

Hello John!
Thanks for job.
Very nice results. I believe you. Can you explain your new method?
Thanks.
Best regards.

SamNL

John, will you still show your method FIVE to the people here when you're at 2000 points or is it 5000 now?

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