The JL Challenge

[Tomla021]

now now , that is really cool. Congrats JL !!!!!

[Johnlegend]

Yeah John and about 80 u should be added to your balance because you were taken to the limit around 20 times and you were forced to take 2 u loss instead of 2 u win. I think you lost 4 step prog once but you were using a different prog then. Anyway that does not a change the fact that you had a very impressive run.  Congrats.

Thanks Hutt still have a long way to go, but have a pretty strong BR now.

[Bayes]

Hi Hutt I don't know what happened there. When I went to close the rng after a game. I noticed there were two open. One had what should have been my new total 1874. The other the total before the game 1872. But it stuck with the previous total twice. So in reality I should be at 2016 right now.

D'oh!

Another thing I didn't think of. 

John,

This test is flawed in several respects, so rather than continue using the software up to the 5,000 unit target, would you consider using an online casino?

We could open an account at BV and put in a few euros. You then continue the test using that account and betting in cents - with a maximum stake decided beforehand. Then we can login to check your progress every so often. It won't be quite as fast as using my software, but you get a spin every few seconds on BV, so not too bad. What do you think?

The only snag is that you no longer get free spins. Not sure if there's any fast online casino where you can bet in pennies and get free spins.

But if you'd prefer to carry on using the software, that's ok.

[Ralph]

Bayes!
Yes test with 0.01 if it works it already works. If not it is a small cost. Winning a grand on paper??
Better in IRL. All sensible tests we do in real using pennies.

[TwoCatSam]

You do get free spins on BV.

[superman]

This test is flawed in several respects

Yes, we know that closing the laptop can prevent the software uploading as the internet connection is disconnected so that session is flawed, as this "could" be used to cover up a bad run!! or am I wrong Bayes?

We could open an account at BV and put in a few euros

The only way forward with this challenge. Then Bayes could login to the same account and get the history, un cheatable totally.

You do get free spins on BV.

4 units on low, 2 units on 3rd dozen, 1 unit on line 19-24

[albertojonas]

test is flawed! i Wonder.

[Wally Gator]

This test is flawed in several respects,

After all this drama ... you gotta be kidding me !!!!!!


Here's an offer.... send me the strategy, I'll play it exactly as written in a real casino on a certified RNG machine on Saturday's with my own money.  If it wins the $2K or $5K (whatever you decide) I'll donate the money to whatever charity you'd like.  If I lose, I'm out the $300 bucks for a bankroll.  I can tell everyone what casino I'll be in and at what machine if anyone wants to come by and check on it.  It can be a single or double zero wheel, I have access to both.


Let me know if there is any interest....

[TwoCatSam]

From the Hills of Branson, Missouri, USA...............

While the test itself may be flawed, let's not discount the possibility that Jl could actually be winning.

Sam

[iggiv]

JL like a crazy buffalo now, nothing is gonna stop him. Over 2k...Hope he will show us sky as a limit.

[Still]

Charts don't cheat!
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[vundarosa]

Am i mistaken or this 2k mark was reached, not by using a single strategy but with multiple ones, with *five* being the last one on the ranks?!....

vundarosa

[Skakus]

While the test itself may be flawed, let's not discount the possibility that Jl could actually be winning.

Sam

Exactly, Sam!

A real money account test is the best way to go, though.

If JL agrees to move the test over to real account betting he should be afforded the same bankroll he has now.

2012 units is at least 20 euros for penny play.

JL should decide how it's funded and who gets the winnings. So if JL Funds it himself then JL gets the winnings. If I fund it then JL and I split the winnings down the middle. 

[Robeenhuut]

Yes, we know that closing the laptop can prevent the software uploading as the internet connection is disconnected so that session is flawed, as this "could" be used to cover up a bad run!! or am I wrong Bayes?
 
The only way forward with this challenge. Then Bayes could login to the same account and get the history, un cheatable totally.
 
4 units on low, 2 units on 3rd dozen, 1 unit on line 19-24

I'm not an expert on software but a common sense approach to find out if the test is flawed would be to let other person have the same setup as John and try to void any bad session. Lets say you place a bet and it loses then try to prevent it from uploading. If its so easy as just disconnecting then the results could be manipulated.
In the meantime lets John post his method as he promised after reaching 2000u.

[superman]

Lets say you place a bet and it loses then try to prevent it from uploading. If its so easy as just disconnecting then the results could be manipulated

From what I understand, JL opens the software, it connects to the server and gets his balance in a file, by downloading and reading it, the only time it updates that file is when the software is told to stop, if you disconnect from the web in any manner, close laptop or pull plug on pc, instant blackout then the software cannot upload the results, Bayes will have to confirm this but thats how I see it.

In the meantime lets John post his method as he promised after reaching 2000u./quote]

Yup I agree, then if everyone else isn't getting the same results or duplicate his play, he can then show it to everyone on BV, heck even I would chip in to fund it. As it stands now, I don't think we can rely 100% on the results, only Bayes knows if the above is possible.