The JL Challenge

[Blood Angel]

Am i mistaken or this 2k mark was reached, not by using a single strategy but with multiple ones, with *five* being the last one on the ranks?!....

vundarosa

Thats how understand it too.

[Bayes]

From what I understand, JL opens the software, it connects to the server and gets his balance in a file, by downloading and reading it, the only time it updates that file is when the software is told to stop, if you disconnect from the web in any manner, close laptop or pull plug on pc, instant blackout then the software cannot upload the results, Bayes will have to confirm this but that's how I see it.

Yeah that's how it works. Unfortunately there's no way around this, except to have the whole shebang on a remote server, which is what I should have set up from the start. Also we've seen that there are other ways in which the results can be corrupted, with the possibility of having more than one instance of the program running, in that case it could work against John, as he's pointed out.

I don't think that any of this necessarily invalidates the results so far, but it would be better in my opinion if the remainder of the test was entirely online.

Anyway thanks to Skakus for kindly offering to provide the bankroll.  We'll let John decided how he wants to continue.

[SamNL]

In the meantime lets John post his method as he promised after reaching 2000u.

Agreed!

[Johnlegend]

Yeah that's how it works. Unfortunately there's no way around this, except to have the whole shebang on a remote server, which is what I should have set up from the start. Also we've seen that there are other ways in which the results can be corrupted, with the possibility of having more than one instance of the program running, in that case it could work against John, as he's pointed out.

I don't think that any of this necessarily invalidates the results so far, but it would be better in my opinion if the remainder of the test was entirely online.

Anyway thanks to Skakus for kindly offering to provide the bankroll.  We'll let John decided how he wants to continue.

I don't mind either way Bayes. I know I've reached my total honestly. I am fed up to be honest with all the changes. I too wish you had made it online to start with. I dont really trust BV. But I will do it. I also hope you will set the online game up in the near future.

[Johnlegend]

Exactly, Sam!

A real money account test is the best way to go, though.

If JL agrees to move the test over to real account betting he should be afforded the same bankroll he has now.

2012 units is at least 20 euros for penny play.

JL should decide how it's funded and who gets the winnings. So if JL Funds it himself then JL gets the winnings. If I fund it then JL and I split the winnings down the middle. 

Okay even though I dont really trust BV. I like Skakus suggestion. He can set the account up and we will split the money down the middle if he is up for that.

[Robeenhuut]

I think that unless there is a proof that there was a strong probability of any cheating in this challenge  than we should continue the way it was done before. Anyway feel sorry that i pointed this out 

[Johnlegend]

I think that unless there is a proof that there was a strong probability of any cheating in this challenge  than we should continue the way it was done before. Anyway feel sorry that i pointed this out 

Hutt. Its fine I dont want anyone saying I got to 5000 unfairly. I will finish it on BV. And by then I hope Bayes will have an online game so I can do the next test ACTUALS on there. Then I will go live. Its an ongoing process. That could last years. I dont care. By the end all will know what I say I can do. I do.

[SamNL]

When can we expect your method FIVE today John?

[Still]

Remote server?
What about Amazon Web Services.  They offer a free computer in the cloud for a year.  If the issue is about shutting down one's computer, that would no longer be an issue.  An administrator could delete an image and replace it with a saved image but if the player is not the administrator then...

I have an AWS account that i have not been using lately.  It has a few months to go of free service.  I ran software on it 24/7 for a few months installed on Windows Server 8 with a familiar desktop.  Something to consider.  Imo its better than BV because its easier and we will always wonder if BV is fair on players, and, how would we be able to collect data and make charts?

[Still]

When can we expect your method FIVE today John?

Probably at five o'clock !

[SamNL]

Probably at five o'clock !

LOL!

[TwoCatSam]

Buffet and Jackson:  It's five o'clock somewhere!

[donik7777]

Hello John!
I look forward with great anticipation your method. I hope its ready.
Best regards.

[SamNL]

Well, I've sent John a Private Message asking when we can all expect FIVE on the forum. When I hear something I'll let you all know

[Bayes]

Remote server?
What about Amazon Web Services.  They offer a free computer in the cloud for a year.  If the issue is about shutting down one's computer, that would no longer be an issue.  An administrator could delete an image and replace it with a saved image but if the player is not the administrator then...

I have an AWS account that i have not been using lately.  It has a few months to go of free service.  I ran software on it 24/7 for a few months installed on Windows Server 8 with a familiar desktop.  Something to consider.  in my opinion its better than BV because its easier and we will always wonder if BV is fair on players, and, how would we be able to collect data and make charts?

Hi Still,

This sounds interesting, I've sent you a pm.