Promising Line bet

[GLC]

This is a system for Lines based on Buffalowizard's "Promising 2 dozen bet" system.
We will play it like the tweak I made to BW's system.
We will be betting 1 unit on 5 Double Streets/Lines. 
We will follow this progression: 1-2-3-4.

Remember, each of those numbers represents the number of units bet on each of the 5 Lines.

Here's a session played on Spielbank Hamburg, Table #1, Jan 2, 2001

Line #       Bet Amount        Total
2
1
2                   
5                      +1 (times 5)        +1  (6-5=1)  1st 5 so no bet
6                1st 6 so no bet
5
2                      +1                          +2
1                       +1                          +3
3                       +1                          +4   1st 3 so no bet
2               
2                       +1                           +5
6                       +1                           +6
2                       +1                           +7
3                       +1                           +8
5                       +1                           +9
3                       +1                           +10
2                       +1                           +11
3                       -1 (X5)                    +6
3                       +2                            +8
2                       +2                            +10
4                       +2                            +12 (recovered losses so drop back to 1) 1st 4
2           
6                       +1                            +13
5                       +1                            +14
4                       +1                            +15
5                       +1                            +16
2                       +1                            +17
6                       -1(X5)                      +12
6                      +2                             +14
5                      +2                             +16
6                      +2                             +18 (recovered losses, drop back to 1)
6                      +1                             +19
1                      +1                             +20
4                      +1                             +21
2                      +1                             +22
2                      +1                             +23
5                      +1                             +24
5                      +1                             +25

As you can see I look back to the last time the current line hit and bet against the same line hitting after it.  I bet 1 unit on the other 5 lines.  A win nets me +1.  When I lose, I've lost -5 units and I increase my bet per the progression to 2 units on each of the 5 lines.  3 wins will recover my lost 5 units plus 1 more for profit at which time I drop back to 1 unit on each line until the next loss or my win target is reached.

I bet every spin because I think the odds of getting a streak of lines beyond 2 is rare so no since passing up a betting opportunity.  Nor do I stop betting after alternations for the same reason.

As you can see, this will win quite rapidly.  A few losses in a row will also drive you into the hole quite rapidly.  We can confine our bets to 1X5 and 2X5 and if we lose while betting 2   we just take the loss.  I think it will win often enough to justify that.

This one might be more playable with a flat bet than the dozens.  So for sure we should keep that in mind as we/I test.

I'm also looking at playing it on Streets as well.  For sure if we're playing it on streets we have to have a close look at flat betting.  -11 on every hit can be a bear to recover.  With the streaks of wins, not too much of a bear though.

Splits and single numbers would be the mortals but you have to have some time on your hands.  I mean how often will say a 3 hit after a 5?  I think you can feel pretty safe betting against it.  Flat bet for sure on splits and singles.

If anyone finds this as interesting as I do, I'd love to hear from you.

I will also add that many of you have pm'd me stating that you appreciate my efforts to help educate you and also to present some systems that help you lose less if not actually win.  For you guys I want to stress that you should take a look at this method of bet selection.  I think it crushes the matrix methods and it's way easier to play.

If it proves to be what I think it will, all the credit goes to Buffalowizard's idea.  It's a good example of why it's important to post ideas, even if people may take some cheap shots at them.  You just never know!

GLC

[buffalowizard]

That's funny George because I was going to look into the exact same method with using the lines. I hope it will prove to be a solid method and perhaps less steep as two doZens can be
Thanks for posting

Buff

[Tomla021]

Not following? if 23546 come out you play 45321?

[mattymattz]

GLC - this is a play off of VLS's old jump line system.  I used that system back in the day with good success, so best of luck to yah.

MM

[GLC]

Not following? if 23546 come out you play 45321?

Tom,  let's say you spin a 6 line.  Look back to the last 6 line and see what line came after it.  Let's say it was the 2 line.  Now bet the 1-3-4-5-6 lines.  Betting against the 2 line coming after the current 6.  Let's say the 1 line spun.  You win +1 unit.  Now look back and see what came after the 1 line the last time it spun.  Let's say it was the 4 line.  We bet 1-2-3-5-6 lines betting that the 4 line won't come after the 1 line again. etc...

[GLC]

Matty,  If you know where Victor's post is, would you mind posting it here so anyone who's interested can read it.  This is also using Matt Johno's system where he played the R/B and when a Red spun you looked back to the last Red to see what came after it.  He used that trigger as the beginning of a trend in that if a Black came after the last Red, he bet for a Black to come after this one.  Same idea and it worked pretty well.  He decided that it was too much of a grind and moved on to greener pastuers, or so he thought.

GLC

[GLC]

When playing the larger ratio bets, the zero becomes more and more of an enemy.  We would probably have to at least consider covering it.

[Tomla021]

ok got ya,, thanks sir

[GLC]

Here's a scanned session.  It's easier for me than typing.
Notice that all I'm doing is taking the current spun line and looking above for the previous occurrence of that line and betting the the line that spun after previously won't spin after it this time.
I have to bet 1 unit on the other 5 lines.
My columns should be explanatory.
 
Lines:  are the lines as they spun.
 
Bet Against:  is the Line that we're betting won't hit.  If you look above you'll see the last occurrence of the current line # and see the number I have written in this column right after it.

Bet amount:  is the unit size which is bet on the other 5 lines

W/L:  Duh?

Total:  Double Duh?

I have 31 bets.
Won 29
Lost 2

Flat betting would have been +29-(2X5=10) = +19 units

Playing the progression I won +20 units.

Questions??

[buffalowizard]

Keep up the good work George. I really like the look of this variant. I'll do some testing myself over the weekend. Cheers

BW

[GLC]

Keep up the good work George. I really like the look of this variant. I'll do some testing myself over the weekend. Cheers

BW

It does look surprisingly stable.  All we can do is continue to test it until we find a bad session so we can see what it looks like and try to determine how common it might be.

There has to be a way to generate long term winnings with a system that performs as well as this one.

I'm going to search for Victor's system mentioned my Matty to see why it fell by the wayside.

GLC

[vladir]

It's nice...

A litle improvement, if you are able to play this in french roulette.

When playing in french roullete, instead of betting in 5 lines, bet 3 units in HIGH/LOW + 1 unit in the other 2 lines. This way, you only loose 3,5 units when a 0 hits, instead of 5.

[GLC]

It's nice...

A litle improvement, if you are able to play this in french roulette.

When playing in french roulette, instead of betting in 5 lines, bet 3 units in HIGH/LOW + 1 unit in the other 2 lines. This way, you only lose 3,5 units when a 0 hits, instead of 5.

Thanks for pointing that out Vladir.  I don't think of those options because here in the US they're too greedy to give any breaks on their 5+% advantage.  And those that do offer a single zero game have a $25-$50 minimum.  Yikes!

[warrior]

The recovery is the problem with the 5 lines ,you need to switch to 2 dozen when there is a loss so you break even ,and recover the 5 units lost,just my 2 cents.

[GLC]

The recovery is the problem with the 5 lines ,you need to switch to 2 dozen when there is a loss so you break even ,and recover the 5 units lost,just my 2 cents.

That's a novel ideal.  So we play the lines and when we have a loss we change to betting the same method but on the dozens that way we're only risking 2 units per bet instead of 5 units and each win still nets us 1 unit. 

I was considering something similar.  Bet 5 lines until you have a loss and then bet only 4 lines until you recover (only 3 wins nets us 6 units and it gives a unit for profit also).  We look at the 2 lines following the trigger to determine which 4 lines to add.  This is similar to what you suggest except that it costs 4 units.

I still am leaning toward a flat bet on this method.

I think I will look at your idea only I will start by playing Streets.  That's 11 units per bet.  On a loss, I will drop down to Lines for 5 units risked for each unit recovered and if I lose on the Lines before recovery I will drop down to dozens.  If I don't recover fully by the time I lose while playing the dozens, I will take the loss and return to Streets and keep going.

So, I would never bet more than 1 unit on each of whatever I'm playing, Streets, Lines, Dozens.  I wonder if we could throw the High/Low even chance as a cleanup bet?

A lot to think about Warrior.  Thanks for the suggestion.

GLC

P.S.  I still think Hybrid DC4 is one of the best so far.  I'm just a little overwhelmed by all the new systems to look at.