Doz/Col flat bets

[Carsch]

 See if this one works for you. I've only tested it with 200 american spins.

After 3 different DOZ (or COL), bet that either one of the last 2 Dozens will repeat on the next spin (bet on last 2 Doz)

Ex: Doz1, Doz3, Doz2
Bet on last two......that is, Doz3 & Doz2.

STOP after 2 losses in a row.
FLAT BETS only

Average win: 8u. per 100 spins (if playing both Doz & Col)


13
9....diff
22....diff
32.....diff.................on the next spin, bet on Doz2 & Doz3
2.......lose (-2)................next bet is on Doz3 & Doz1
6......Win (-1).............wait till you have 3 different Dozens (or Columns)
13
6
21
18
34....diff
22....diff
1.....diff ................on next spin, bet on Doz2 & Doz1
17....Win (0)
35.............last 3 Dozens are different. We bet on the next spin
30...Win(+1)

[beretta28]

These kind of systems has been invented ten minutes after the invention of roulette 200 years ago!

[Carsch]

Damn, i guess i'm late. LOL...........but have you tried it and see how it works for you?

[Tomla021]

oldies can be goodies--i will give it a 300 spin whirl

[Master_of_pockets]

I tested 734 spins for you only on dozens bets.
Nice hit ratio.          So far!




I have tested all variations of bets like this...There is a case had missed this one....if I hadn t missed this one that means that it s the same like the rest....but I don t remember quite well.

If this bet selection show a nice hit ratio(not a lot of losses in a row) then with a mild progression maybe it would be a nice method.

[Master_of_pockets]

I continued the test and made them 1272 spins...Aprox. 270 bet spins
So after 270 bets of 2 chips each bet we are +1.  This isn t bad...not bad at all  TILL NOW ofcource
Still nice hit ratio...Never had more than 5 losses in a row till now

I faced around 7 zeros so far

[Carsch]

 I just tried this with some spins from Germany,
Played Doz & Col at the same time

163 spins played
Profit: +11
Drawdown: -9

isch:                       T2
Datum:               2012-06-24
********* Gewinnzahlen ********
16
3
8
32W+1
24
9L
5W+2
32
17
2L
4W+3
27
27W+4
3
17
27L+2
36W+3
3
21
34L+1
16 W +2
14
35
34
23
9
34LL-2
25WW0
3
10
33
35
14W+1
28
6
5WL0
27W+1
35
32
32
24
35
21
6
19W+2
12
27
29W+3
21
11
28L+1
9WL-1
5L-3
35
25
7
34
36
12
14
34L-5
31W-4
25
16
33
1
10W-3
3
-- -- --
12
20
4
31W-2
29W-1
9
23W0
9W+1
18
12
1
23
26W+2
28W+3
17
0
12
28LL-1
34WW+1
22
-- -- --
11
3W+2
17W+3
25
20WW+5
29
33
11
5
22
27
25WW+7…………………………..100^TH SPIN
4
1
16
27
32W+8
13L+6
20W+7
21
34L+5
-- -- --
18W+6
30
19
27
21
2
18W+7
16
3W+8
18
19
24
22
16
26
14
33
29
6
0
8
18
32
35W+9
8
29
16
17W+10
22
23
14
28
19
29
21
15W+11
13
19
0
13
25
-- -- --
28
11
14
0L+9
14W+10
19
17
19
17
7
29
29W+11…………………………………………163TH SPIN
35
15
18
16
19
18
22

[Carsch]

I continued the test and made them 1272 spins...Aprox. 270 bet spins
So after 270 bets of 2 chips each bet we are +1.  This isn t bad...not bad at all 

LOL to +1.

But speaking of a progression, after the first 2 losses, one could wait for 3 more virtual losses and use a Marti, or whatever works.

[Carsch]

oldies can be goodies--i will give it a 300 spin whirl

Yeah, i like to test some of the old stuff and see what changes could have been made.......who knows!

[Master_of_pockets]

I am now to 1985 spins ..... 420 bets +1
Its not a bad hit ratio all all! I have still not had more than 5 misses in a row(it happened only once)

The negative expectation(-2.7%) in 420 bets of 2 chips per spin is -22.68. aprox. -23 chips and we are +1

This is why it is not bad at all.....

This bet selection will not be the final method.....what we have to see is IF this bet selection is any better than all the others(-2,7).... IF it will be true(mathematical impossible) then it may be the base of a flat winning bet OR maybe it can be combined with a mild progression.

I have tested around UNLIMITED flat bets....and all was driving to the -2.7.
If this one is any better , then this is a great thing.

[Carsch]

Wow! Cool! Thanks for checking, MoP.........sounds interesting.

[Master_of_pockets]

No problem my friend.
don't be exited from now.
I have tested flat bets that passed 2.100 spins and then crashed badly....

So as u understand we are still in the testing phase  and we haven t tested a lot....

Please continue testing and post results....test only dozens ...
In the end we will ADD the results .

[Master_of_pockets]

908 placed bets = -42

The normal expectation of 908 bets with 2 chips per spin is = -48.6

So as You can see  the house edge did what is is supposed to do 

Conclusion : This bet selection is not better than the others.

Thanks.

[Carsch]

Damn!! Oh well! I'm thinking that some kind of progression might work with this. Here are more results from the German casino.

Dozens only

318 spins
Profit: +5
Drawdown: -10

Tisch:                       T3
Datum:               2012-06-24
********* Gewinnzahlen ********
33
2
27
17
33W+1
23
19
9
15
2
6
33
5
14
21W+2
10
1
27
28
13
19
36
30
27
9
8
14
36
6L+0
26W+1
3
4     
5
21
27
25W+2

12

5

8

27

19

5L+0

24W+1

22

20

23

5

19

30

13W+2

26

0

5

22L+0

22W+1

8

10

26

2

21

20

35

23W+2

31

10

11W+3

24

33

27W+4

26

26

18

0

32

27

5

10

35

4

26

5

17

21W+5

29

22

14

32

0

22

6

5W+6

16

0

2

8

26

32

17

17

36

28

7

1

19

6

22

6

1

11

32

17

12L+4

10W+5

19

0

32

30W+6

22

29

25

0

21

11

13W+7

27

20W+8

3

26L+6

13L+4………STOP….WAIT FOR NEW TRIGGER

12

33

0L+2

27W+3

30

25

11

34

25

30

34

14

20

1

31

2W+5

2

31

14

17W+6

6

14

1

21

23

12

11

2

9

15

13

34

27

25

21

0

13

7

25

16L+4

11L+2…………..STOP AND WAIT FOR NEW TRIGGER

27

34W+3

26

36

10

33

3

30

12

29

25

34

6

7

11

12

20

21

21

30

33

36

5

33

20

22W+4

3

31

17L+2

7L+0………..STOP & WAIT

34

0L-2

6W-1

26

30

31

30

27

19

2

23W+0

30

5L-2

7W-1

28

15

26W+0

2

32W+1

18

17W+2

18

28

36

11

25

3

27

32

16

1

0L+0

21W+1

10

19

10

22

3

18

32

26W+2

28

31

10

29

23

0L+0

20W+1

24

27

10

1W+2

36

30

7

22

5W+3

36

35

19

15

4

3

26

16

34W+4

22

11

15W+5

5

16

22

17

28

31

21

19

15

5

17

1

10

34

25

5

4

36

26

18

9

20W+6

34

10L+4

6W+5

4

31

33

18

33

27

17

36

19

22

30

30

25

33

31

0

5

24

28L+3

28W+4

9

27

14

20W+5

10

36

[Carsch]

Using the same spins above, going Doz and Col the result was - 15