EC Money / JL Challenge

[Skakus]

well done Skakus

what betting format do you use now ?

You know this is very tricky, and we must remember that the main point of the challenge for me is simply to beat this rng, but at the same time I am trying to “keep it real” for future practicality of use, so I’m still trying to figure out the best parameters for the betting formula.

At the moment I am shooting for +12 units for each mini session. Each time I reach a new bankroll high I am resetting the selection methods, whether by reset then play on, or both reset and reboot program then play on.

Also, each time the wL registry goes +5 for either W or L, I am resetting the selection methods, whether by reset then play on, or both reset and reboot program then play on.


At this point I am struggling with the best stop loss amount. Presently I have it set at -108 units, but I’m not convinced about it at all. I might at some point play on up to the limit of 50 units to see if that makes any difference (Run From Hell killer stuff), but I’m really not sure which way to turn this thing. I think a ‘random stop loss’ is my next point of focus.

Funny, I’m miles in front but can sense defeat just around the corner!

[Johnlegend]

You know this is very tricky, and we must remember that the main point of the challenge for me is simply to beat this rng, but at the same time I am trying to “keep it real” for future practicality of use, so I’m still trying to figure out the best parameters for the betting formula.

At the moment I am shooting for +12 units for each mini session. Each time I reach a new bankroll high I am resetting the selection methods, whether by reset then play on, or both reset and reboot program then play on.

Also, each time the wL registry goes +5 for either W or L, I am resetting the selection methods, whether by reset then play on, or both reset and reboot program then play on.


At this point I am struggling with the best stop-loss amount. Presently I have it set at -108 units, but I’m not convinced about it at all. I might at some point play on up to the limit of 50 units to see if that makes any difference (Run From Hell killer stuff), but I’m really not sure which way to turn this thing. I think a ‘random stop-loss’ is my next point of focus.

Funny, I’m miles in front but can sense defeat just around the corner!

Don't even think like that Skakus. There is no way you should even fall below 500 points now.When I was at 57 units I thought about you. I said to myself I should be up there with Skakus not down here. By next Wednesday I am aiming to join you.

by the way what part of the world are you from Australia?? As your last game registered 04/08/12 and its still the 3rd in London. Keep it going.

[TwoCatSam]

JL

So you're from London! 

One of my best vacations was to see The London Bridge. 

I hear Brian Williams of NBC Nightly News refer to youse guys as "Brits".  Is that an offensive term?  How about "bloke"?  Skakus, what's a "cobber"?

Sam

[Johnlegend]

JL

So you're from London! 

One of my best vacations was to see The London Bridge. 

I hear Brian Williams of NBC Nightly News refer to youse guys as "Brits".  Is that an offensive term?  How about "bloke"?  Skakus, what's a "cobber"?

Sam

Yes I am from London Sam. Have lived here all my life. No Brits isnt offensive. Limey as You Americans often refer to us could be. But I am not bothered anyhow. I am of mixed heritage anyhow. Irish, Indian and Norwegian flows through my blood.

[holymoly]

Hi,sorry to jump in Sam,im a Brit living in Oklahoma(112 today in the shade),

We are not affended being called 'Brits   
Been called a lot worse...

Bloke=Guy,fella,chap,Geezer....

Enjoying the games from the 'smoke'(London) here in Oklahoma.

[TwoCatSam]

Thanks, JL.  My ancestry is actually English, so I just wanted to know if I offended myself!

I am a bit "limey" when I drink rum and coke.  And I love tea enough to be a "tea bag" although I drink Oolong!!

Indian?  I love chicken korma.  Not Karma!  I don't know if chickens even have Karma!

Good to have a nice chat wit ya!

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

holy

Yes!  When Marcia and I went to lunch/supper, the car's thermo read 120!!

How in the world did you ever get here?  What part of the state?

Sam

[holymoly]

Long story Sam..

Married a Michigan girl,(sadly now divorced)How she ended up here is another long story.
Been here 11 years Sept 1st 2012..no,i don't say 'yall' yet.,,lol

ps..i live in Beckam County on the Famous Route 66 ...Elk City

Keep cool neighbour.

[Skakus]

Check this out >>> 16 wins in a row!    I must be doing something right.  

BLACK   22   L   1064
EVEN    21   W   1085
HIGH    22   W   1107

08/07/2012 RED      7   W   1114 

08/07/2012 ODD      8   W   1122 

08/08/2012 HIGH     3   W   1125 

08/08/2012 ODD      4   W   1129 

08/08/2012 BLACK    5   W   1134 

08/08/2012 BLACK    1   W   1135 

08/08/2012 LOW      2   W   1137 

08/08/2012 BLACK    3   W   1140 

08/08/2012 BLACK    4   W   1144 

08/08/2012 EVEN     4   W   1148 

08/08/2012 HIGH     2   W   1150 

08/08/2012 RED      3   W   1153 

08/08/2012 LOW      4   W   1157 

08/08/2012 RED      5   W   1162 

[Skakus]

Got to 19 wins in a row before a loss. That's a record for me.

What are the odds of that?

[donik7777]

Hello Skakus! How do you play? Thanks.

[Still]

Congratulations!  Somethings going on here. 

[Bayes]

Got to 19 wins in a row before a loss. That's a record for me.

What are the odds of that?

Just seen this - impressive!     it beats my personal best of 17 consecutive wins.

EVEN    21   W   1085
HIGH    22   W   1107

08/07/2012
RED      7   W   1114

08/07/2012
ODD      8   W   1122

08/08/2012
HIGH     3   W   1125

08/08/2012
ODD      4   W   1129

08/08/2012
BLACK    5   W   1134

08/08/2012
BLACK    1   W   1135

08/08/2012
LOW      2   W   1137

08/08/2012
BLACK    3   W   1140

08/08/2012
BLACK    4   W   1144

08/08/2012
EVEN     4   W   1148

08/08/2012
HIGH     2   W   1150

08/08/2012
RED      3   W   1153

08/08/2012
LOW      4   W   1157

08/08/2012
RED      5   W   1162

08/08/2012
HIGH     2   W   1164

08/08/2012
ODD      3   W   1167

08/08/2012
HIGH     4   W   1171

Probability is (18/37)¹⁹ or 1 in 882,000

z-score 2.54 @ 3,782 bets. 

[Ralph]

The chance is of course minimal, but anybody  follow a color,usually  bet as long it lasts, and then the wheel show the path in some way. Random do it is mathematical the same, but in real life probably very rare. My record (I do not always count) were 16 when I got 18 blacks and follow the color using a progression add a fraction on win,

[Skakus]

For anyone interested,

This challenge has been tough work. So far I placed 4054 EC bets for 2049 wins and 2005 losses.

Flat bet profit is 44 units. EC Money profit is 755 units.

I am getting a bit tired of the bankroll bobbing up and down at the same level because of 108 unit session losses, so for the next few attempts I might eliminate the stop-loss, which is currently set at 108 units, and just progress the bets all the way to the 50 unit challenge limit.

It is risky, but If my z-score, which is currently 2.47 is worth anything then I might just be lucky enough to burst through any scary drawdowns.

I’ve given this a good crack, I may not have conclusively beaten it, but Bayes RNG has definitely struggled to beat me. If I go belly up from here, I’m still happy with my performance in this challenge.

If I go broke then so be it. If I get to 5000 units then I’ll claim a victory. But my main hope is to get the z-score out of the interval of chance, so if I can get it above 3 and it keeps rising a little bit after that then I’ll claim a victory despite whatever the bankroll is.

So now I’ll try and recover every session from here on in. If I hit the table limit and I’m still down then I’ll cop the loss.

Like I said it is risky, and I don’t won’t to lose this fun money challenge, so I am going to test this out first with real money on my DB account!