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Robeenhuut · Jul 21, 10:33 AM 2012

Quote from: Twisteruk on Jul 21, 09:46 AM 2012
Nothing can be proven, ever. Its just a matter of perspective

I know I ALWAYS win at the start of a System BVNZ does not know. ALWAYS.

Then over time it learns, in my opinion, your Triggers and then sends you strings of numbers to break you

I can't prove it but it happens every time just like that. So I'm convinced

Also why limit the string of numbers by default to 10 ? And why limit the Max String of numbers to 60 and say not 6000 ??

in my opinion its because of their Checksum. They know as soon as those predetermined numbers are sent to you they can not change them due to the said Checksum. So it doesn't want to get into a long fight with you as it won't be able to adapt and beat you.

Like I say just my opinion.

As for getting the same results in play compared to Real, of course you will. Why wouldn't you ??
If it were so noticably different then the Cat would deffo be out the Bag !
It has to be the same, so the reaction is, "ah but fun play is the same"

So why if you are in doubt you dont choose other casino? House advantage?
If its a problem as to giving 10% your earnings back? I put up too long with PP slingshot
before i changed it

Twisteruk · Jul 21, 10:42 AM 2012

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jul 21, 10:33 AM 2012
So why if you are in doubt you don't choose other casino? House advantage?
If its a problem as to giving 10% your earnings back? I put up too long with PP slingshot
before i changed it

I have.

I now play at PaddyPower and until I was banned W@nkerhill

I wont ever go back to BVNZ

And payin 10% of ure winnings is better than playin against the House Edge. Bayes, a year or so ago, did the Math and showed us all that 10% on winnings was better.

Twisteruk · Jul 21, 10:43 AM 2012

What did you find wrong with PP slingshot ?

Robeenhuut · Jul 21, 10:51 AM 2012

Quote from: Twisteruk on Jul 21, 10:43 AM 2012
What did you find wrong with PP slingshot ?

Generally i admit i have a slow connection where i live so 0.1 slingshot was too fast for me.
Lots of unaccepted bets were not refunded. I was using VPN that additionally slowed my connection because i live in restricted territories.

And Bayes might be right but its still 10%.

trebor · Jul 21, 11:11 AM 2012

My experience is similar Twister.

I also find that when I test with pennies I'm winning. The I think to myself "this seems OK I'll go for 10p". That is virtually always the point at which I start losing. Out of interest I have varied the number of testing sessions but it still happens.

I know people will say coincidence and I agree it might well be so, but this is such a regular pattern.

The only thing is though, BV claim the number strings are generated by an independent hardware type of device so if they are sending doctored numbers they would have to be lying about that.

I've started chopping and changing to see if I do better.

Trebor

Ralph · Jul 21, 11:29 AM 2012

Quote from: trebor on Jul 21, 11:11 AM 2012
My experience is similar Twister.

I also find that when I test with pennies I'm winning. The I think to myself "this seems OK I'll go for 10p". That is virtually always the point at which I start losing. Out of interest I have varied the number of testing sessions but it still happens.

I know people will say coincidence and I agree it might well be so, but this is such a regular pattern.

The only thing is though, BV claim the number strings are generated by an independent hardware type of device so if they are sending doctored numbers they would have to be lying about that.

I've started chopping and changing to see if I do better.

Trebor

If you start lose after shifting from 1 cent to 10 cent, you lose 10x just due to the value of the chips.

I have done a misstake to underestimate the chip value, I had a bankroll for it, but a long progression from 1 cent or from 10 makes a big difference.

I wrote in this post:
link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9858.0

It can be total other play if the chips are tenfold value. Table limit bankroll and so on.

trebor · Jul 21, 11:43 AM 2012

What I'm saying is that when I increase stakes that's always when the numbers I need just don't hit.
It's not that I was losing before.

Trebor

TwoCatSam · Jul 21, 11:47 AM 2012

Twister

I'm not at all familiar with the 10 numbers or 60 numbers you speak of. But let me ask you this: Do you believe 10 numbers are "set in stone" and BV cannot change them until they are delivered to you?

If the answer is yes, can you determine when those numbers start?

If the answer to that is yes, why couldn't you bet one system on spin one and then switch. Keep track and switch back and forth.

While they're tying to beat you on one system, you will be winning on another.

I'd really like to learn more about these numbers and how they are delivered. Any time typing would be greatly appreciated.

Sam

TwoCatSam · Jul 21, 11:49 AM 2012

Quote from: trebor on Jul 21, 11:43 AM 2012
What I'm saying is that when I increase stakes that's always when the numbers I need just don't hit.
It's not that I was losing before.

Trebor

Trebor

Do you raise the stakes in the middle of the game? Are you at the end of a phase? I've seen folks do that a lot. They win on a trend for a while and then, about the time the trend ends, they'll raise their bet and get wiped out. I'm one of those folks!!

Sam

Twisteruk · Jul 21, 11:57 AM 2012

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 21, 11:47 AM 2012
Twister

I'm not at all familiar with the 10 numbers or 60 numbers you speak of. But let me ask you this: Do you believe 10 numbers are "set in stone" and BV cannot change them until they are delivered to you?

If the answer is yes, can you determine when those numbers start?

If the answer to that is yes, why couldn't you bet one system on spin one and then switch. Keep track and switch back and forth.

While they're tying to beat you on one system, you will be winning on another.

I'd really like to learn more about these numbers and how they are delivered. Any time typing would be greatly appreciated.

Sam

Sam

If you open the BVNZ Casino window, up the top, is a drop down. You will see its default number is 10
That means that the next block of 10 numbers are predtermind and cannot be changed due to the checksum
You can change this number up to a Maximum of 60
So the next 60 numbers you get "are set in stone" and cannot be changed

The numbers start from when you hit the spin button

TwoCatSam · Jul 21, 12:02 PM 2012

Twister

That is very good information. Thank you!

Sam

Twisteruk · Jul 21, 01:07 PM 2012

Sam

I forgot to add make sure you click 'new' its the button to the right, watch the checksum change
then you know you have 60 snow perfect numbers

trebor · Jul 21, 01:08 PM 2012

Sam,

I've a depressing idea that you may be right. But I seem to have and uncanny knack of increasing stakes at just the worst possible time. If only I could turn that to my advantage.

Deep down I think I don't trust BV. Right or wrong that's enough to take the fun out of it.

Trebor

Twisteruk · Jul 21, 01:14 PM 2012

Robert

You know ure right, dont you ?

All the times uve played with 1c and won and then up it to 5c and 10c and the odd 50c and then it goes Pear

EVERY TIME !

You are right. In our Hearts we know it, like you say.

There will be those who say we are sore losers or the like but if the truth be told I dont mind losin on a Real Wheel coz I know it was REAL !

Anyway, whoever is right it cant be proved. Period.

Robeenhuut · Jul 21, 01:16 PM 2012

Quote from: trebor on Jul 21, 01:08 PM 2012
Sam,

I've a depressing idea that you may be right. But I seem to have and uncanny knack of increasing stakes at just the worst possible time. If only I could turn that to my advantage.

Deep down I think I don't trust BV. Right or wrong that's enough to take the fun out of it.

Trebor

When in doubt just stay out....

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