Illuminati

[warrior]

Sorry I did not noted anything, did not even count the numbers of spins the dozen not show.
It were something around 30 spins.  This is not common, but still it happens.

The fib will go high in 30 spins, I did not like to follow  if it needed over 200 chips.

The recovery is done, using a method which was suited better, at the situation.
still count on repeaters!

Thats to bad you didnt keep records ,buy you should because those help in the long run to see how random behaves,11 is the most i have seen the fibo takes care of this very well,30 spins is rare but yes it does happen .

[Ralph]

I do not note all my games, I do it during some testing. I run this for maybe 200 runs, Had moderate height in some fib:s (51 sometimes). Then I stop note down. It was during an other play, I need to track, and I usually bet while tracking. Sometimes just a cent an an EC, otherwise the wheel will not spin. This time I jugs start on dozen, using not the lowest value.

I do not belive in note down all spins, all random combinations are more or less infinite. The likehood 30
absent doz can be estimated, but not when it happens.

[TwoCatSam]

We track the last 13 spins ,the dozen that has the most hit that's the dozen we bet on ,wins come with in 8 spins .

After a win we need to let 6 spins without betting to recycle the dozens,there is a reason for that.                     
                         

warrior

When I started out, planning to wait for 13 spins, I noticed that one dozen got so far ahead the other two could not have caught it, so I went with it.

When waiting for the six, I used the winner before as the first dozen and then looked for six new.  Sometimes one dozen would have four marks under it and the others could not tie or pass it, so I went with it.

It worked for me.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

I'm shocked and appalled!

This is really a good way to bet.  Far better than betting the last or penultimate.

No one is interested?

Sam

[Tomla021]

I think its a kick butt way of betting

[vladir]

I'm interested, but don't have much time rigth now to test new methods...

[vladir]

What you think of this progression:
1-1-1-2-3-5-7-11

Max on a win is 2 units, and on the 3rd attempt, we just break even . But it costs only 31 units for 8 steps, instead of the 55 for a normal fibo...
Maybe using the first one until we have a loss, and then use the normal fibo for recovering?

[albertojonas]

interesting idea to change progression for recovery,,,


1 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89
this is fibbo for me.

[zwanatico]

So it seems we have a working system :-)
Can anyone please upload some excel/pdf file with complete RNG session with last working rules with no aggresive prog?
Thank you.

[rossco]

This method by warrior has a high strike rate. It occurs to me that it may work even        better if used with 'Engineered / Crossing / Croatian Dozens'. Each of the 'Crossing      Dozens' is comprised of a sector of four numbers in all Dozens and all Columns.
   
For explanation of these terms please refer to :

A.  index.php?topic=326.1365  Reply# 1373.

AND :

B.  index.php?topic=326.1350  Reply# 1361.
                                                                     rossco.

[bossdarling]

Nice work, Warrior. I've tested with thousands of live data from dublin, works very well.

To minimize progressions, perhaps we should be careful with "anomaly". It doesn't come very often, but when it comes could be painful. Below is an example:

17
11
27
5
26
21
11
13
20
20
20
14
(12 spins: D1=3, D2=7, D3=2)

We bet on D2 right? the results:
29
28
36
32
34
34
30
33
10
12
8
9
20

It took 13 progressions or 609 units to win.

What i meant by "anomaly" is previously D2 hits 7x, more than 50% of 12 rounder for 3 candidates. This imbalance could cause another "anomaly" of sleeping.

In my humble opinion, perhaps we should take not that if the hottest hits more than 6x (50%), we take the no. 2 candidate. Doesn't come very often anyway..

Cheers

[zwanatico]

bossdarling, excellent idea.
What do you think is the best progression?  for example, 1 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 - stop?

[bossdarling]

Hi zwanatico, I think the key is not the progression, but the pattern reading.

I read Gizmotron's advice on randomness, Winkel's "see watch going on", VLS curve of winning & losing (to me it's favourable & unfavourable patterns), Hermes' imbalance roulette, JL's patience to wait for certain conditions, etc, etc.

And yes, I think D and C patterns are quite readable.

Cheers..

[kayla]

Very profitable system thank you

[warrior]

This is the best dozen bet to date.