Illuminati

[warrior]

Nice system, bad name ^^

We all need to be enlightened mr vladir,that is the meaning of the word .

[warrior]

It would be nice to know how many times we had a win on each bet.

Like JL posts.  100 wins on bet #1
                      70 wins on bet #2
                      50 wins on bet #3
                      Etc...

This can be helpful in determining a safer progression.

If we know that 70% of the wins come in the 1st 4 bets, we can use a progression that needs 2 or even 3 wins to fully recover.  This will keep our bets from escalating too quickly and we can be less afraid of a long losing sequence.

I think your right,but  there is so much on here for free and seems to that there are people that dont post anything ,so why the ones that are the observers do a little work,i have done my part N1CKYYY has done his part ,let the others step up if they like the system and get those results that your asking for GLC ,GREAT IDEA .

[Tomla021]

I can throw numbers at you slowly,, hand tested:) when possible,,200 spins played ....hit the dozen within 4 spins each time.

[warrior]

I can throw numbers at you slowly,, hand tested:) when possible,,200 spins played ....hit the dozen within 4 spins each time.

Sound good

[warrior]

I can throw numbers at you slowly,, hand tested:) when possible,,200 spins played ....hit the dozen within 4 spins each time.

[albertojonas]

when lose all 8 steps wait 6 spins and continue with the progression on the new trigger?


OR


accept the loss? and start from 1?


OR


continue progression until 13 step ?




1-1-2-3-5-8-13-21-34-55-89-144-233-,,,


attached two sessions

[Robeenhuut]

I analyzed 1st chart of 10k spins posted by NICKYYY ( great thanks  )  He used Fibo 1123581321 playing with 0.01u. I found 11 lost 8 steps progressions ( each loss represents 55u and each win 3.6u on average).  10k spins represents around 440 games played on average (13 spins tracking plus 4 spins and 6 spins waiting for next cycle so one game in my estimate takes 23 spins ) So we had 429W and 11L for 39/1 strike rate. Chart showed 22u profit so after deduction of 11x0.68u in losses we would have earned around 15u. Translating into 1u,1500u in 440 games, 3+u a game. We had one game that went 14 spins (drop of 10u past 8k mark) I wonder what happened in other charts 

[Robeenhuut]

I analyzed 1st chart of 10k spins posted by NICKYYY ( great thanks  )  He used Fibo 1123581321 playing with 0.01u. I found 11 lost 8 steps progressions ( each loss represents 55u and each win 3.6u on average).  10k spins represents around 440 games played on average (13 spins tracking plus 4 spins and 6 spins waiting for next cycle so one game in my estimate takes 23 spins ) So we had 429W and 11L for 39/1 strike rate. Chart showed 22u profit so after deduction of 11x0.68u in losses we would have earned around 15u. Translating into 1u,1500u in 440 games, 3+u a game. We had one game that went 14 spins (drop of 10u past 8k mark) I wonder what happened in other charts 

I made a mistake in calculation of  profit from a chart. Should be around 800u or 1.8u a game.

[TwoCatSam]

Fibo

0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13.........add the last two for the next bet.

When you win, do you cross off the last two?

0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13........then I win on 21, so I X out the 13 and the 8--right?  Is that not for a 1-1 return?  If my bet had been 21 on a dozen, I would have won 42 and I only needed 33 to clear the line.

As you can see, the Fibo is not something I have studied. 

Any take-me-by-the-hand help is appreciated.

Sam

[N1CKYYY]

I invented money management system for THIS VERY SYSTEM created by warrior.

You can run a bot to play with 0.01 on betvoyager until the end of the table limit is reached which is 60 euro for dozens and columns. At this point your progression can not escalate upper and most probably you are going to lose part of the money you have won.

Now here is the good part:

Next few games you start playing with 1 euro chips for example and win lots of money in a few spins.

WHY is this going to work?

Because analizing the charts we see that big drops happen every 3-4 thousands spins on average and 'almost impossible' to happen one after another.

Does somebody know what is the maximum limit of money you can win from betvoyager before getting banned? ( I always feel paranoid that they will detect me for using bots )

[Robeenhuut]

I invented money management system for THIS VERY SYSTEM created by warrior.

You can run a bot to play with 0.01 on betvoyager until the end of the table limit is reached which is 60 euro for dozens and columns. At this point your progression can not escalate upper and most probably you are going to lose part of the money you have won.

Now here is the good part:

Next few games you start playing with 1 euro chips for example and win lots of money in a few spins.

WHY is this going to work?

Because analizing the charts we see that big drops happen every 3-4 thousands spins on average and 'almost impossible' to happen one after another.

Does somebody know what is the maximum limit of money you can win from betvoyager before getting banned? ( I always feel paranoid that they will detect me for using bots )

Hola Nickyyy

Not so quickly. Around 70u risk means 18 steps in Fibo. And you will be playing lots of games. To cover 25 steps you would need 1000u..... And I'm talking euros...  You can play your bot and hope that you will win few times 20 or 30euros and hope that rarely you will lose 60u.

Regards

[warrior]

when lose all 8 steps wait 6 spins and continue with the progression on the new trigger?


OR


accept the loss? and start from 1?


OR


continue progression until 13 step ?




1-1-2-3-5-8-13-21-34-55-89-144-233-,,,


attached two sessions

Lots of mistakes in your numbers ,i just had to look at the first string of Ls ,then a W and 3 more LS and the W, you did not count six before starting a new game, the 3 Ls and the W ARE 4 SPIN meaning you won on the 4th spin ,so 2 more spins no betting would be 6 then look back 13 and wala you would of won on the second spin in your second game ,and not have all those LS.TRY AGAIN.
I did not go through all your numbers because i found the first mistake right at the beginning so therefore i no there is more.good try.

[Ralph]

Does somebody know what is the maximum limit of money you can win from betvoyager before getting banned? ( I always feel paranoid that they will detect me for using bots )

I have not yet been banned, and the only restriction I got were max 5000 at each withdraw.
They may use that you use a bot as excuse, but I do not think they care very much, most of the winnings are calculated as loan with  interest. They have an autoplay, there you can shuffle 1 cent,
24/7, and this function they have because it gives profit.

I do not think they ban because of  winnings, if they have problems with low margin, they adjust the rules. They did, some years ago I won much on Roulette Express, I could progress to 30 Euro
on a bet 1 to 200. Now you are allowed to bet max 3 euro.

[Robeenhuut]

I have not yet been banned, and the only restriction I got were max 5000 at each withdraw.
They may use that you use a bot as excuse, but I do not think they care very much, most of the winnings are calculated as loan with  interest. They have an autoplay, there you can shuffle 1 cent,
24/7, and this function they have because it gives profit.

I do not think they ban because of  winnings, if they have problems with low margin, they adjust the rules. They did, some years ago I won much on Roulette Express, I could progress to 30 Euro
on a bet 1 to 200. Now you are allowed to bet max 3 euro.

Who are you kidding Ralph?  They love people with bots.  The longer you play the more  they are going to take from you. The same with taking notes at casino. You have a system  sir?  But of course we will allow you to take notes 

[Ralph]

Who are you kidding Ralph?  They love people with bots.  The longer you play the more  they are going to take from you. The same with taking notes at casino. You have a system  sir?  But of course we will allow you to take notes 

Who is kidding? I wrote they do not care, but still may use it as excuse, if they have softer argument, for why they want to stop you (some casinos do).  More play more profit for the bank.

They will change rules, if they can not earn more with more play.