The "Ten Unique Numbers" test...........

[TwoCatSam]

Hello

I am pausing my posting on my "Holy Thingy" thread and starting this one, as this is pure testing and not an explanation.  Well, maybe a small explanation!

THE GOAL.......To determine if it is possible to wait for 10 unique numbers and bet for X number of times for profits.  When X is exceeded by losers, (the run from hell) the goal becomes to split the loss into four parts (maybe three) and recoup the loss by dodging the run from hell.

In the simulated graph below let ------------represent 1,000 spins and 0 represent the run from hell.

---------------0---------------0-------------0--------------0-------------0------------0

This idea works almost well enough to forget the RFH and just bet for profits straight out, but I want more. 

IMAGINE.........that the RFH cost you 30 units.  That is your loss/trailing loss limit.  We shall say we want to recover that in four wins.  We are hoping the wins come somewhere between the 0s. 

WHAT I INTEND TO DO:

Run the bot for days on end, looking for approximately where the 0 comes.  Then I shall set the bot for a cut-off at X.  I will then try to insert my manual runs into the scheme of things by letting BV run in auto mode for a few hundred spins.  Hopefully, I will begin betting at one of the many, many attempts which end in a win.

If that fails, I'm not sure of the next step.

HAVE TO TESTIFY............Some of this idea must be credited to AMK, warrior and JL as what I'm doing is "jumping the bet up" at some point and "jumping it back" at another.  Sort of "Hit and Run".   I will list all the math as I go.

This thread is as much for me to refer back to--as I forget what I'm doing--as it is to bloviate!

I've been f*ar*ting around with roulette for years.  This may be the best lazy-man's way to dinner money I've ever seen.

A bot will have to be built.  Or bought.  Or stolen.

Samster

[TwoCatSam]

Here is my first test.  Had a very good trot; no RFH.  Low was around 15u.  Made almost 19u

IMAGINE:  You have four attempts that must not go the same or longer than your longest in this graph.  What are the odds you would have picked exactly the same spin to start on.  You must count each little tiny spike downward where it only went so small an amount down that it hardly shows.

[TwoCatSam]

Second try.  Still no RFH.

[F_LAT_INO]

Samy boy,
Like it and reminds me of something am presently testing with inside numbers.
As soon as get the time will closely look into it.

[TwoCatSam]

Thank you, Mr. F!

[TwoCatSam]

OK,  got the RFH.......

Now I will work to find a way to get around it.

[Stepkevh]

so this is only betting when you have 10 unique numbers ?

[Skakus]

What qualifies as 10 unique numbers?

1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.10.  ?

or,

1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.9.8.10  ?


So are you looking for 10 uniques without a repeat, or 10 uniques skipping over repeats?

Good idea to skip over repeats if you ask me, not that you did.

So skip over the repeats, get your 10 uniques, then if the next result is one of your 10, place a bet on your 10. If it wins keep betting the same 10 until it loses. If it loses, place a new bet on the next 10 uniques, after a repeat of course, etc.

Once you have 10 uniques you are essentially waiting for the next spin to repeat one of the 10. If it doesn't then you add in the most recent result, and drop off the furthest back result. So you don't bet until your current 10 uniques repeats.



Just trying to help.

[Ralph]

I trust repeaters rather than sleeping numbers.
I use to play on numbers just shown should repeat.

This time I inspired from you select them different.
Spinning (a cent on an EC) until a repeat, and chose the repeater and
the numbers between.

Played using 1 cent on a ZERO table at BV.
(No tax on winnings).

This were hitting nice, and they use to do it, it is
very fast winnings as well.
There are RFH at rare times, I use to stop
after losing 1000 chips, but sometimes I struggle
to the end, and it can be thrilling, and a bankroll
of 10000 or more in risk.
The recover speed is quite fast, so a stop loss
with 1000 i think have sense.

0.01 and 0.1 chips will not reach to the table limit, 0.5 and higher can do.
(once I were close to table limit with 0.1, but I should have stopped far before
went OK, but could been expensive).

I save the bet in BV so I can add the chips easy.

This play is done today.


between 33 
32 8 29 15 19 23.
first spin 32 hit.

between 27
34 30 20 4 31 9 1 32 27

show   33 22 4  third hit

between 27
7 4 22 33 27.

6 31 26 17 16 2 12 30 15 15 12 26 3 27 hit but still back
19 5 3 22 hit on plus.

between 3
5 19 27 3
22 11 20 24 9 22 31 32 35 5 hit on plus.


between 22
9 24 20 11 22
31 32 35 5 4 31 19 9 hit on plus.

between 31
32 35 5 4 31
19 9 20 16 1 1 26 18 31 hit on plus

between 26
18 31 36 26
2 15 15 18  hit on plus

between 18
31 36 26 2 15 15
27 33 3 30 15 hit on plus

between 15
18 27 33 3 30 15 (all in same col.)
35 36 16 27 hit on plus.


between 16
27 8 14 16
18 17 23 0 4 5 20 22 5 26 4 11 16 hit on plus


between 16
8 12 19 17 27 16
15 17 hit on plus.


between 17
27 16 15 17
16  hit on plus.

between 16
15 17 16
11 2 14 21 24 5 28 11 2 15 hit on plus.

Check the plus, some chips!!!
I use 1 cent chips

[TwoCatSam]

What qualifies as 10 unique numbers?

1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.10.  ?..............THIS

or,

1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.9.8.10  ?


So are you looking for 10 uniques without a repeat, or 10 uniques skipping over repeats?

Good idea to skip over repeats if you ask me, not that you did.

So skip over the repeats, get your 10 uniques, then if the next result is one of your 10, place a bet on your 10. If it wins keep betting the same 10 until it loses. If it loses, place a new bet on the next 10 uniques, after a repeat of course, etc.

Once you have 10 uniques you are essentially waiting for the next spin to repeat one of the 10. If it doesn't then you add in the most recent result, and drop off the furthest back result. So you don't bet until your current 10 uniques repeats.

NO.........I wait for 10 unique and then bet those ten.  Lose?  Bet 11.  Lose? Bet 12......and so on.

Thanks for the input.

Sam



Just trying to help.

[TwoCatSam]

Ralph

That's a darn good idea.  Not what I'm testing at current, but a darn good idea.  I will study on it.

Thanks....

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This is last night's run while I caught a few ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZs.  'Bout ready to begin the study of where to cut off and how to recover.

Sam

EDIT:  Seems in 3,000 spins, I always make very close to E20.  This means to me that things are happening very consistently--wins and loses.

[Ralph]

I did one play, so it is not well tested. I ask mysellf, if the repeters hit, why stop with 23 units, GO ON and I did ups and a bit down, ended with 2700 units max bet were 156.

Hitting about  17 times (did not record)  I got  9 numbers on the table.

Now to investigate if we stop in a good run, just because we are on a minor plus.

[TwoCatSam]

I am going to set my stop-loss at 26E and try to win that back in four tries. 

Math:  9,000 spins and one RFH.  Odds of hitting RFH in four tries with 9.000 spins to work from ......9,000/4=2,250.  The chances of me just landing on a RFH while in recovery is 2,250 to 1. 

I'll try it with four, but may go to six.

Are ya excited?

Sam

[Ralph]

(No Trolling)

beware, I got some drinks playing the system  (1,2,3,0) without glasses, and Ya a bit pIIst.

I am use to max 10 Euro on a number as NOZero has, and as my play went good, I was thinking the game will be my stop, as soon it reach 10 Euro the prompt will come, I was not aware of the zero wheel, which I not have been used much. I saw 1278 Euro, but in my mind it were  12.78 . I went on. I got god hits, add another chip each time, more or less, sometimes I may have shaken my hands so it may be 0-3 addition each bet. Suddenly I saw the maxbet on zero-table IS NOT 10 Euro, via the figures on the account. Now it was not  269,01 rather 26901, as the do not always show the last zero digit.

I have got such a winning before, about three years ago at roulette express, some other may have got a large winnings, and they cut down the maxbet, This time they try to make No Zero less attractive with new rules, the reason I moved to Zero Wheel.

In the most cases its good to know the rules, but not always.

Remind me of Dubinbet when I playing a bit drunk, hitting by misstake MAXBET, and during the spin I thought my bankroll were lost, as the close the game before I was able to correct,I won.

So much work I spend in beating the wheel, and have done best drunk. It is an angel sitting there?

Who rules the outcome?

[TwoCatSam]

I am going to set my stop-loss at 26E and try to win that back in four tries. 

Math:  9,000 spins and one RFH.  Odds of hitting RFH in four tries with 9.000 spins to work from ......9,000/4=2,250.  The chances of me just landing on a RFH while in recovery is 2,250 to 1. 

I'll try it with four, but may go to six.

Are ya excited?

Sam

Terrible error!  2,250-1 is all wrong.  I need to count the actual number of betting trots instead of the number of spins.  I am going to use six as $4.35 is easy to manage.

Let's guess it at 100-1.

Sam