EC System

[atlantis]

Hi Fraudster,

Welcome to you for joining in and I am pleased you think it of any interest.

With regards to ZERO; I usually ignore and carry on from the previous number, but it is really a matter of personal preference... e.g.: if you were losing you may decide to WAIT for another number to occur after the ZERO before resuming betting on the opposite to the the last type of bet. (and at least it avoids the possibility of being hit by a double 0!)

Of course there is no zero "le partage" concession (half stakes return) with that particular Casino.

Thanks,
A.

[atlantis]

Casino Spielbank, Wiesbaden 11 Sep 2010 - Table 8
Tested using 2u-2d with reset
I decided to stop after 49 spins (abt. 55mins-1hr real-time play)
Result:
+8 in 49 spins
Max Drawdown=6
Highest Bet=3

Playing 2u-2d without resetting to 1 when level or ahead results in  +12 in 49 spins

A.

[GLC]

Hi All

i will be helping test this idea much more in the future...

i was using the above progression posted by glc in the last post before this one.

looks very promising indeed guys ... not only are you catching a choppy table, but you should also catch streaky ones too i.e. RRRRBRRRRRBBBBBBBB.

Fraudster,

Thanks for jumping on board with us.

How you treat the zero is up to you.  I usually just count it as one of the chops or streaks whatever it hits on.  In the long run I don't think it will matter much.

If you get a chance, Google "Monte Carlo Anecdotes" and go to page 80 and read what the author has to say about this bet selection.  You'll find it informative.

LOL,

George

[atlantis]

Casino Spielbank, Wiesbaden 11 Sep 2010 - Table 9
Playing 2u-2d (without reset)
Result:
+20 in 57 spins
max drawdown=20
highest bet=5

Without reset means:
When 2 consecutive wins are gained, I reduce by 1 unit as the "2u-2d" says and continue play at that amount even if I have reached level or a new profit high... (unless I am currently playing at the 1 unit level - in which case I stay at 1 unit)

A.

[StackBundles]

so whats everybody total with wins and losses its still way in profit right?

[atlantis]

So what's everybody total with wins and losses its still way in profit right?

Hello Stackbundles!

Stack, So far.. So good... (in initial tests that is)
I would advocate you conduct your own personal test to verify (or negate) the strength of this approach and be your own judge as to its worth. Everyone is happy to read any findings you may discover or encounter in this regard be they positive or negative.
Although my confidence is growing I would refrain from playing with any real monies just yet until a more extensive/exhaustive test is completed...
It's not a bad bet for an EC bet... and the 2u-2d prog seems to suit but, as said, it is still a little early to take to Casino without knowing it is a consistent and winning strategy...

Cheers,
A.

[StackBundles]

i wouldnt put real money on untill i know what im up against id like to try this with bacarat i think it might be alot stronger on that but also use it on roulette

[F_LAT_INO]

Hello Stackbundles!

Stack, So far.. So good... (in initial tests that is)
I would advocate you conduct your own personal test to verify (or negate) the strength of this approach and be your own judge as to its worth. Everyone is happy to read any findings you may discover or encounter in this regard be they positive or negative.
Although my confidence is growing I would refrain from playing with any real monies just yet until a more extensive/exhaustive test is completed...
It's not a bad bet for an EC bet... and the 2u-2d prog seems to suit but, as said, it is still a little early to take to Casino without knowing it is a consistent and winning bet...

Cheers,
A.

Well and fairly said,Atlantis.

[GLC]

I wouldnt put real money on until I know what I'm up against id like to try this with bacarat I think it might be a lot stronger on that but also use it on roulette

This is my thought exactly StackBundles.  Playing and even chance game without the bothersome zeros seems to make a lot of sense.

George

[GLC]

Casino Spielbank, Wiesbaden 11 Sep 2010 - Table 9
Playing 2u-2d (without reset)
Result:
+20 in 57 spins
max drawdown=20
highest bet=5

Without reset means:
When 2 consecutive wins are gained, I reduce by 1 unit as the "2u-2d" says and continue play at that amount even if I have reached level or a new profit high... (unless I am currently playing at the 1 unit level - in which case I stay at 1 unit)

A.

Atlantis,

I like this new twist on the progression. 

I was noticing that continuing to decrease during a win streak was costing us a lot of units.  I know there is the down side of a losing streak instead of wins, but nothing's ever perfect.

The one thing I wish we could overcome by betting 1-1,2-2,3-3 etc... When we are having an extended WLWLWLWLWLetc... series, if we were betting 1-2, we would be gaining a unit on each win instead of staying at the same place.  That's why I thought of the 1-2,2-4, 3-6 ect...  I have been testing 1-2, 2-3, 3-4,4-5 etc... to catch these units on the W/L sequences and it seems to be working without driving losing streaks too deep in the hole.

Cheers,

George

[atlantis]

Hi,

Another way (and I just post this because I thought of it right now and didn't want to forget) is to play the chop/streak strategy on paper until 2 virtual losses and then jump in and play 2u-2d until level or in profit or UNTIL 2 further L's.... After which cease play and continue recording virtual results until 2 further virtual L's which is the trigger to bet (at +1 unit if necessary)
Here I demonstrate with GLC's earlier results he posted.

#     Type      Res    +/-
=================
B    No Bet    -         0
R    Chop      W
B    Streak     L  
R    Ch          W  
R    St           W  
B    Ch          W    
B    St           W    
B    Ch          L    
R    St           L      
B    Ch          W+1   +1 *reset
B    St           W    
B    Ch           L    
R    St            L
R    Ch           L-1     +0
B    St            L-1     -1 *Incr to 2
B    Ch           L  
R    St            L
B    Ch           W+2   +1 *reset
B    St            W
B    Ch            L      
B    St            W  
B    Ch            L      
R    St             L
B    Ch            W+1   +2 *reset
R    St             L
R    Ch            L
R    St             W+1   +3 *reset
B    Ch            W
B    St             W
R    Ch            W
B    St             L
B    Ch            L
R    St             L-1     +2
R    Ch            L-1     +1 *Incr to 2
B    St             L
R    Ch            W
B    St             L    
B    Ch            L    
B    St             W+2   +3 *reset
R    Ch            W
B    St              L
R    Ch             W
B    St              L
B    Ch             L
R    St              L-1    +2
B    Ch             W+1  +3 *reset
R    St              L    
R    Ch             L
R    St              W+1   +4 *reset
B    Ch             W
R    St              L
B    Ch             W
B    St              W
R    Ch             W
0    St              L
R    Ch             L
B    St              L-1    +3
R    Ch             W+1  +4 *reset
B    St              L
R    Ch             W
B    St              L
R    Ch             W
R    St              W
B    Ch             W
B    St              W
B    Ch              L
B    St              W
R    Ch             W
R    St              W
B    Ch             W
B    St              W
B    Ch             L
B    St             W
R    Ch            W
R    St             W
R    Ch             L  
R    St             W
B    Ch            W
B    St             W
0    Ch             L
R    St              L
B    Ch             W+1   +5 *reset
R    St              L
B    Ch             W
R    St              L
R    Ch             L
R    St             W+1   +6 *reset
B    Ch            W

+6u profit.
Highest bet=2

Regards,
A.

PS. Just posted this as a "notebook memo" really in case reference needed later.

[StackBundles]

Hi,

Another way (and I just post this because I thought of it right now and didn't want to forget) is to play the chop/streak strategy on paper until 2 virtual losses and then jump in and play 2u-2d until level or in profit or UNTIL 2 further L's.... After which cease play and continue recording virtual results until 2 further virtual L's which is the trigger to bet (at +1 unit if necessary)
Here I demonstrate with GLC's earlier results he posted.

yeh that sounds good maybe try it soon as ive played normal for abit

but my first session

in 10 spins was +6

going to play some more

[StackBundles]

just shows you when you get on at the right time you get quick profit

c +1
s 0
c -1
s +2
c +3
s +2
c +3
s +2
c +3
s +4
c +5
s +6
c +7
s +6
c +7
s +8
c +9
s +8

[StackBundles]

i was just thinking maybe it wont make a difference but have we looked at what the best pattern to start our first bet off with like

bbb
rrbbr
bbrrr
brbrbrb

maybe worth looking at

[GLC]

I was just thinking maybe it wont make a difference but have we looked at what the best pattern to start our first bet off with like

bbb
rrbbr
bbrrr
brbrbrb

maybe worth looking at

I think you're right Stack.  There are definitely winning and losing sequences and the difference from one to the other is to be on the opposite chop/streak pattern. 

We might also need to decide if and when we may need to bet two chops or streaks in a row so as to jump off a losing pattern onto the winning pattern.

Lot's of tests needed to fine tune this thing.

G